Hi Everyone (and thank you)

[Mr.Darcy]

i tend to try to alternate occasionally between high and medium cartridges,and high and medium liquid.

when i feel the medium isnt giving me enough hit,i top it up with high liquid.
when i feel im vaping too much high,i top up with medium liquid.

you really need to get some liquid in various strengths if you want to limit your nicotine intake...then you can find some balance to suit your own needs.

[jamie]

Originally Posted by apachedug

Now I'm just praying that they don't get banned by overzealous and paranoid tobacco lobbyists who see the potential for smokers to quit the real thing here...

It's going to be anti-tobacco lobbyists working for a ban.

[CaSHMeRe]

Originally Posted by jamie

It's going to be anti-tobacco lobbyists working for a ban.

I think it will be lobbyists on BOTH sides of the equation.

~ Pro-Tobacco Lobbyists don't want to lose money.
~ Anti-Tobacco Lobbyists will fight the fact that there is no *evidence* on what PG and related e-cg chemicals may do to not only the smoker, but those around.

[apachedug]

sigh...I think I'm going to move to China!

Thanks for the fluid tips Mr.Darcy...to be honest I haven't even considered the notion of buying the liquids yet! I was surprised to read what some of the members are doing here in regards to 'dripping' and syringes & the like; I'm kinda hoping to keep my little e-habit as uncomplicated as possible.

(Though at the rate I'm going with this e-thing, a month from now I may be walking around in a labcoat & sloshing around beakers of my own e-brew!)

[TropicalBob]

That you will. And you'll have fun doing it. Experimenting with flavors is a joy.

Jamie, you are RIGHT. Big Tobacco isn't going to come front and center on this issue. It wants to push snus and other smokeless tobacco products as alternatives to cigarettes. Big Pharma will fund the anti-tobacco groups, but remain in the background. It wants approved patches, gums, lozenges, et al, to the only non-tobacco alternative. It will be the anti-tobacco zealots who write Congressmen and petition governments to ban these devices. We've listed the reasons many times on this forum.

[jamie]

Originally Posted by CaSHMeRe

~ Pro-Tobacco Lobbyists don't want to lose money.

It will be less Pro-tobacco and very quiet. Evidence that they are trying to quash a safer smoking method would result in huge headlines, mega-bad press including commercials and print ads, congress folks that run the other way when they exit the elevator, and a renewed push for big-tobacco regulation.

More likely to lobby for the Pro-tobacco position would be investment firms and large pension funds.

Originally Posted by CaSHMeRe

~ Anti-Tobacco Lobbyists will fight the fact that there is no *evidence* on what PG and related e-cg chemicals may do to not only the smoker, but those around.

Also that nicotine is addictive and dangerous and "...for the children!".


4 sentences means 4 more chances I could be wrong.

[Mr.Darcy]

apachedug,i cant be bothered with a lot of hassle either.

i just drip 4-5 drops or so onto the cartridge core(the white filling)when it gets a little dry and is producing less vapour,without removing it from the cartridge casing...then stick it back into the atomiser tube,and smoke.
its mess free,and really uncomplicated.

i think having some liquid makes e-smoking cheaper and easier to manage than using new cartridges all the time...you should look into getting some.

[TropicalBob]

In the end, money wins.

Governments desperately need tax revenue, and tobacco is an affluent source of funds with its heavy taxation. Anything threatening the present tax structure on tobacco will not be received kindly in state or federal halls. Ha. Ask Dr. Loi to follow the money when e-smoking is an issue. Money wins. Health is a back burner issue.

Besides, our good government will tell us it has FDA approved, thoroughly tested and regulated ways to get off cigarettes or continue nicotine use. The government won't welcome some untaxed, unregulated, untested Chinese imports muddying the cessation/alternative cigarette waters.

[leaford]

Originally Posted by apachedug

But for running to the office in the morning, it's not like you can whip it out and take a couple fast puffs before you run into the building, like a real cig. You've got to take....your....time if you want a couple nice hits.

I find it just the opposite. With a real cig if I just want a puff or two before going inside, I have to light a cig, and either waste it by tossing the rest, or put it back out, strip off the burnt end, and stuff it back in the pack to smoke later (Which always tasted foul). MUCH easier, and no waste, to whip out my e-cig, puff once or twice, and put it back in my pocket.

[bishybob]

Originally Posted by apachedug

I was surprised to read what some of the members are doing here in regards to 'dripping' and syringes & the like; I'm kinda hoping to keep my little e-habit as uncomplicated as possible.

(Though at the rate I'm going with this e-thing, a month from now I may be walking around in a labcoat & sloshing around beakers of my own e-brew!)

I'm trying to keep it simple too. I'm sticking with cartridges for now just because I like the idea of keeping spare carts and switching them out. Very portable. I may change this eventually though and buy some of Jane's e-liquid and use it to top off cartridges.

One thing I do now though that helps is when I'm done with a cartridge, and it stops making good vapor, I put it back in its holder until I get home. At home I squeeze the rest of the liquid out of the filling and put it in an eye drop bottle. There's a good amount in there sometimes. For some reason some cartridges are more full when they stop working than others. Then at night when I have the time I'll put a couple drops on the atomizer directly, or top off an almost empty cartridge to get more use out of it. This way I don't feel wasteful changing cartridges early, because I know I'll still use the liquid.

Just a thought...