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Old 07-11-2008, 01:32 AM   #21
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i doubt they will send em a demo.. Before i started reviewing things, i returned my NJoy and now wish i would have kept it because of the reviews. Not because i liked it any better than anything else. i was naive.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:32 AM   #22
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Yup, no WAY am I gettin old here.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:39 AM   #23
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i was just talking about the actual product...

but yeah,the target thing was bound to happen eventually...
unfortunately its happened way too soon.
these devices are not fit for use by the general public yet.
i think this is gonna be damaging...

what are njoy thinking of?making a quick buck,im afraid...they could actually be hastening their own doom,and damaging acceptance of esmoking in general.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:54 AM   #24
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I think Casino sales are a good idea though. My brother's snooker hall folded last year shortly after the ban came in. The only thing that was keeping the place going was his Texas Hold 'em school, and as soon as the players couldn't smoke, it was sayonara. He's driving a lorry these days...
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I think it's a huge mistake. These things are not ready for prime time.
Oh hell no they're not! Anybody wanna join me and start a pile of our broken parts?
And I've only had my Njoy for a little over 2 months and I'm working on my 3rd atomizer. C'mon!

You're absolutely right T-Bo. I don't see anything good coming out of this, I'm afraid.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:05 AM   #26
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Actually the npro looks exactly like my smartfixx mini. I'll be interested to see if it works any better.

Thanks again for the tip. I just ordered and exchanged so hopefully I'll have the npro next week.

Oh and the coupon code didn't work so I told them about that in the email when I wrote to exchange the order for an npro. Hope they get the discount this time!

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Let us know if it's like the Smart Fixx mini and if it works any better -- the same, or worse. I'd be interested to know.

As I understand it from both Jims, Jim Palasota of Njoy supplies Jim Youngblood of Smart Fixx. I'm not clear if that means EVERYTHING Smart Fixx sells is from Njoy, though; however, Jim Palasota of Njoy says they back up (1-yr. warranty) every Njoy product regardless of where the consumer purchased it.

And good thing you pointed out that the coupon code Smokey (case-sensitive) didn't work for you. I'll let Jim know as well.
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Marian, you might be able to shed some light for me. Is Jim's outfit a one or two man band (as I sometimes think Ludo and Harry are at Ruyan)? If he's been on the road drumming up big corporate fatties for our eventual benefit I won't feel too bad about the radio silence.

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Old 07-11-2008, 02:29 AM   #28
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The one thing that worries me about nationwide rollouts (at least here in the UK) is that if our government gets a sniff that they might be losing out on lost revenue (a packet of cigs here costs on average £4.50 - $9 approx, of which 84% is tax) to the e-cig, they'll slap a horrendous tax on it to bring it inline with tobacco cigs. Our government has a vendetta against both smokers and motorists, seeing both as cash cows but with the added vindictiveness of the smoking ban and persecution of smokers
Precisely! That has been my worry all along, and I just see this getting the boot once the public becomes aware that we evil smokers are gettign our nicotine hits in public again- they'll start whining about 'the smell', about becoming ill around them, about how not much is known about hte safety of PG etc- them ore exposure this product gets, the quicker it will be banned because it's an unregulated nicotine delivery system. Special interest groups will be whining on Congress' doorsteps until they get this banned altogether- either that or it will become medically mandated- meaning we'll need a perscription to get them- so the medical comunity can get millions of dollars in patient visits to 'assess our medical needs & evaluate how well the eevice is workign' etc- which would be fine- except that it's a major hassel havign to go back to health center evertime our perscriptions run out

Seems we can't kill ourselves all by ourselves, we have to be taxed and regulated by hte medical comunity in order to kill ourse4lves enjoyably.
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Oh hell no they're not! Anybody wanna join me and start a pile of our broken parts?
And I've only had my Njoy for a little over 2 months and I'm working on my 3rd atomizer. C'mon!

You're absolutely right T-Bo. I don't see anything good coming out of this, I'm afraid.

I'm workign on my 4th and it hasn't even been a month yet- SmartFixx- but I will say they have been really good about sending out new ones so far

All these starter kits hsould come with a minimum of 3 atomizers- two batteries, etc. Especially since it's in it's infancy & we the consumers are being hte companies guinne pigs- My goodness- we are after all taking a risk not knowing if the product's PG is even really as safe as these sompanies claim- Being htat we are essentially the control group for hte company tests, we should at the very least have a couple of atomizers and batteries offered to us with the purchase of hte products- especially for hte prices they are charging us & for hte fact that hte product is known to be unreliable with high failure rates
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As I understand it from both Jims, Jim Palasota of Njoy supplies Jim Youngblood of Smart Fixx.
Ahh well I didn't know that. I don't want another of the same thing -- honestly it's just not that good and I actually like the pen style much better than the super mini. I definitely do not want another super mini. I think I'm just going to cancel my order.

Thanks for that info!
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