Penstyle Benefits....

[Sun Vaporer]

Originally Posted by yvilla

Sun, I finally decided to chime in here - as I have seen you say the 801 is a better unit a million times.

I think that is a matter of opinion, and you ought to qualify it as such. I choose RN 4072 atomizers over 801s, as in my opinion they are better. I believe I'm not the only one who seeks out the RN model atomizers over the DSE models, and that includes the 4075s versus the 901s as well.

Yvilla--that is not an opinion --from a mechanical point it is a fact. If you take an 801 and an RN4072 apart you will find much thicker guage wiring, a stronger bridge and a densed coil.. The contact points also on the 801 are sturdy unlike the Rn4072 that has wires so thin they snap just looking at them wrong. Also the coil in the RN4072 is smaller and the wire mesh is very loose and not strongly connected to the bridge.

So bottom line --no opinion--an 801 has a much better construction and design. So it is not subjective like tasting e-liquid--it is very objective------and I for one am not going to tell people to go out and buy and inferior product-----Sun

[yvilla]

Sue, as Kate said, as far as I have known, and based on my very first ecig which was an NJOY Ncig, the NJOY penstyles have been RN 4072s.

I know Sun disputed that in another thread recently, but that's what I know. Could NJOY have changed suppliers since I bought mine 15 months ago? Maybe. But, I haven't heard anything to make me believe that happened.

[yvilla]

Sun, sorry, but I still disagree, and I have used both.

[ejfan1977]

Originally Posted by yvilla

Sue, as Kate said, as far as I have known, and based on my very first ecig which was an NJOY Ncig, the NJOY penstyles have been RN 4072s.

I know Sun disputed that in another thread recently, but that's what I know. Could NJOY have changed suppliers since I bought mine 15 months ago? Maybe. But, I haven't heard anything to make me believe that happened.

Thanks, I believe you are correct. I have ordered 801 atomizers and they do have a different draw/feel to them. The 801 atomizers are similar to the 901's I just got as far as the draw, but I prefer the 801's to the 901's.

[melissa]

Wow thanks you guys for the quick response A lot of stuff to digest but I was wondering about throat hit and cartridge life and you guys helped me bunches! I think I might have to add this to my "arsenal" Thanks you all....again you have not disappointed me when I have a question

[Delite]

The life span of them is a lot longer for battery life in between charges, and cartridges last a lot longer.

The throat hit should be the same, if not a little better. But some atomizers are better than others. Hope that helps!

[Sun Vaporer]

Originally Posted by yvilla

Sun, sorry, but I still disagree, and I have used both.

Yvilla--No need to be sorry--just base your opinion on some facts as we are spending a lot of time, money, and effort to get to the bottom of atomizer failure and we already know that the RN4072's Arch Shaped Bridge is much closer to the coil then the cone shaped bridge of the 801 so it burns hotter and creates much more residue on the coil and also wastes e-liquid. I have many of both of these atomizers and after seeing how they work--it would be like me telling someone to buy Rope when a Chain is really needed.

So Yvilla if you like for whatever reason the RN4072 keep on buying them---we are just reporting what we are finding in the experiments we are doing---it really has nothing to do with taste or preference as I said----------Sun

[Sun Vaporer]

Originally Posted by yvilla

Sue, as Kate said, as far as I have known, and based on my very first ecig which was an NJOY Ncig, the NJOY penstyles have been RN 4072s.

I know Sun disputed that in another thread recently, but that's what I know. Could NJOY have changed suppliers since I bought mine 15 months ago? Maybe. But, I haven't heard anything to make me believe that happened.

Yvilla--Yes Sun did dispute it in another thread because it is not true. When you buy 50 atomizers from different sources were the sole purpose is to find something that will clean them and make their life expectancy longer for everyone here, and then spend hours working with them and taking them apart to find solutions to the residue problems, you come to find what is really going on with these atomizer

I have a new NJOY in my hand right now and it clearly is an 801--the bridge is Cone shaped--not arched, and the positive connection to the battery is the standard wide diameter 801. Also the diameter of the cartridge is that of the 801--so I do not know what you base your info on--we base ours on what we actually see. The NJOY is the same unit as the BEST BE112 which is a generic 801 and clearly not a RN4072---Sun

[yvilla]

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

the RN4072's Arch Shaped Bridge is much closer to the coil then the cone shaped bridge of the 801 so it burns hotter
it really has nothing to do with taste or preference as I said----------Sun

It has everything to do with taste and preference Sun. You are missing that point.

The hotter burn makes for more throat hit. Some people prefer that.

In your opinion, it's better to go for a supposedly longer lasting coil. Without even getting into longevity (again, I have used both and I know which have lasted me longer), the difference in vapor and throat hit more than makes up for any difference in longevity, for some people.

I'm not telling you to recommend them. But I am telling you that which is better is a matter of opinion.

[yvilla]

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

so I do not know what you base your info on--we base ours on what we actually see.

Oh for heaven's sakes Sun, do you simply like to dispute me for the sake of disputing me?

I told you what I was basing my post on, in the post itself. It was based on my own first NJOY Ncig!

I also said it was bought 15 months ago, and admitted there could have been changes since. Sheesh!