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Philip · 07-18-2008, 02:01 PM

I've got one and I agree on the taste. Horrible and as I posted on another thread, rather like smoking a lit paper straw.

TropicalBob · 07-18-2008, 02:26 PM

Isn't it obvious the built-in atomizer wire is burning some of the filler material? That's Bad with a capital B. The antis will be protesting second-hand filler smoke!

mixos · 07-18-2008, 03:35 PM

I dont think that the filler material is burning, maybe other peoples description of the taste is making it seem this way, but i have pulled apart 3 cartridges now and none of them show any sign of burning. I am hopeing that the cartridges that they send as standard just have a really bad taste.

TropicalBob · 07-18-2008, 03:49 PM

Oh, I hope so, too. This is a superb idea that could be ruined by poor execution.

MNZ · 07-18-2008, 04:06 PM

I'm inclined to agree with mixos' summation, there doesn't seem to be any sign of burnt wadding in his latest vid, and there also doesn't appear to be any signs of a fabric material in the core of the atomizer. So it does seem to to point to there being a fundimental problem with the juice being used ... Is it a different formulation ? I'm thinking it might very well be that. This is a radical departure from the "normal" design of atomizer we are used to using.

The heating coil is in direct contact with the wadding.
The life of this thing is outstanding.
I think a new lower density PG has been used, or perhaps diluted to create the mist
The liquid used in this device is completely different from what has been used before.

I still come back to my thoughts on basic atomizer operation, except on this model the juice is pulled into a central veritical hollow core to gain contact with the heating element instead of micro drops from a surrounding basket.

This is a bold new design... does it measure up ?
I'm still in two minds about that, I need to own and use one for a period of time. And I also need to muck about refilling it to give an honest apraisal of it. The refilling part is to primarily to see if I can improve the existing flavour and also to see if the juice in the original carts is different in behaviour to the refilled ones. Only use will tell.

Damn I just talked myself into buying one of these !!!!

TropicalBob · 07-18-2008, 04:12 PM

I've got their motto once they get the liquid worked out: Tastes great, less filling.

CaSHMeRe · 07-18-2008, 04:19 PM

this is my thinking on the whole loongtotem ecig.

Great idea, seemingly a good design, poor execution. Why release something that tastes like burnt paper, straw, whatever... If nothing was indeed smoldering (and you don't need smoke or burnt brown polyester for something to smolder and melt) why would they develop a taste like this? they make eliquid and have made other carts. what other tastes and eliquid may be doing is just "covering up" the smoldering taste so the user thinks everything is fine and dandy when in reality its not.

conclusion ...
1. was this product thoroughly tested? if it was, God knows testers would tell them straight up about the taste.
2. they already produced such large amounts of the current atomizer/carts, they are off loading them on unsuspecting buyers so they can still make a profit instead of throwing them in the trash.
3. reality is, this company makes lots of different flavors, why pick a flavor like this in the first place.
4. refilling with a stronger eliquid or a more flavorful eliquid will just mask what is really going on.

common sense people, something isn't right.

Mr.Darcy · 07-18-2008, 05:21 PM

it isnt a new design.its the same design atomiser as the one from the loongtotem at the end of last year.

the real question is,have they been able to cure the smouldering of the material problem,whether through using modified liquid or different material...thats what I want to know.

CaSHMeRe · 07-18-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Darcy

it isnt a new design.its the same design atomiser as the one from the loongtotem at the end of last year.

the real question is,have they been able to cure the smouldering of the material problem,whether through using modified liquid or different material...thats what I want to know.

o i c ... interesting ....

Nazareth · 07-18-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Darcy

it isnt a new design.its the same design atomiser as the one from the loongtotem at the end of last year.

the real question is,have they been able to cure the smouldering of the material problem,whether through using modified liquid or different material...thats what I want to know.

Read the other loong thread with Mixos' review- he didn't get any burning and at htis point says he thinks it's just the lousy liquid used that gives the terrible taste- he's currently wating on different taste atomizers fro mthem and htis will tell if it's the liquid that is causing it. Both his atomizers that he tore apart didn't show sifngns of burning

woops scratch all that- I see others answered htis already- I'm always a day late-dollar hsort lol

07-18-2008, 04:06 PM	#25
MNZ NZ Supplier Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 314	I'm inclined to agree with mixos' summation, there doesn't seem to be any sign of burnt wadding in his latest vid, and there also doesn't appear to be any signs of a fabric material in the core of the atomizer. So it does seem to to point to there being a fundimental problem with the juice being used ... Is it a different formulation ? I'm thinking it might very well be that. This is a radical departure from the "normal" design of atomizer we are used to using. The heating coil is in direct contact with the wadding. The life of this thing is outstanding. I think a new lower density PG has been used, or perhaps diluted to create the mist The liquid used in this device is completely different from what has been used before. I still come back to my thoughts on basic atomizer operation, except on this model the juice is pulled into a central veritical hollow core to gain contact with the heating element instead of micro drops from a surrounding basket. This is a bold new design... does it measure up ? I'm still in two minds about that, I need to own and use one for a period of time. And I also need to muck about refilling it to give an honest apraisal of it. The refilling part is to primarily to see if I can improve the existing flavour and also to see if the juice in the original carts is different in behaviour to the refilled ones. Only use will tell. Damn I just talked myself into buying one of these !!!! __________________ MichaelP Please do not adjust your mind, there is a problem with reality Last edited by MNZ; 07-18-2008 at 04:23 PM.

07-18-2008, 04:19 PM	#27
CaSHMeRe Daddy Steve USA Supplier Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,726	this is my thinking on the whole loongtotem ecig. Great idea, seemingly a good design, poor execution. Why release something that tastes like burnt paper, straw, whatever... If nothing was indeed smoldering (and you don't need smoke or burnt brown polyester for something to smolder and melt) why would they develop a taste like this? they make eliquid and have made other carts. what other tastes and eliquid may be doing is just "covering up" the smoldering taste so the user thinks everything is fine and dandy when in reality its not. conclusion ... 1. was this product thoroughly tested? if it was, God knows testers would tell them straight up about the taste. 2. they already produced such large amounts of the current atomizer/carts, they are off loading them on unsuspecting buyers so they can still make a profit instead of throwing them in the trash. 3. reality is, this company makes lots of different flavors, why pick a flavor like this in the first place. 4. refilling with a stronger eliquid or a more flavorful eliquid will just mask what is really going on. common sense people, something isn't right. __________________ www.PureSmoker.com

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07-18-2008, 02:01 PM	#21
Philip Full Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 34	I've got one and I agree on the taste. Horrible and as I posted on another thread, rather like smoking a lit paper straw.

07-18-2008, 02:26 PM	#22
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,529	Isn't it obvious the built-in atomizer wire is burning some of the filler material? That's Bad with a capital B. The antis will be protesting second-hand filler smoke!

07-18-2008, 03:35 PM	#23
mixos Full Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 52	I dont think that the filler material is burning, maybe other peoples description of the taste is making it seem this way, but i have pulled apart 3 cartridges now and none of them show any sign of burning. I am hopeing that the cartridges that they send as standard just have a really bad taste.

07-18-2008, 03:49 PM	#24
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,529	Oh, I hope so, too. This is a superb idea that could be ruined by poor execution.

07-18-2008, 04:12 PM	#26
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,529	I've got their motto once they get the liquid worked out: Tastes great, less filling.

07-18-2008, 05:21 PM	#28
Mr.Darcy Super Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,399	it isnt a new design.its the same design atomiser as the one from the loongtotem at the end of last year. the real question is,have they been able to cure the smouldering of the material problem,whether through using modified liquid or different material...thats what I want to know.