seriously beside having e cigarette beside u , you also having real cigarette?in your

[TropicalBob]

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Maybe you'll be lucky, Trog. I had lunch again last week with my cousins. One is 89, doesn't use a walker or cane, sharp as a tack mentally, looks great -- and smoked four packs a day for 50 years, along with being an alcoholic lush. He quit cigs in his 60s. Another cousin at the lunch smoked two packs a day for 50 years, quit in his 60s, looks great at 84.

I'm in my 60s now. I quit a year ago and feel incredibly more vigorous. I smoked 30 cigarettes a day for 50 years. Also liked cigars and pipe tobacco many of those years. Now I use snus all the time, along with e-smoking, and puffing (never inhaling) a pipe once or twice a day. Yep, I'm a nic addict. ANYTHING BUT A CIGARETTE has got to be the motto we live by. Please read the scientific findings and get off inhaling cigarette tobacco. You can find a better way, and it is not too late for you. That is a defeatist excuse that's not provably true.

Here's one nice thing we can do for those younger than us: Never encourage any use of tobacco cigarettes. If it's not lung cancer that awaits smokers, it's emphysema or COPD or pancreatic cancer or tongue cancer or debilitating stroke or early heart attack ... take your pick among the sufferings that statistically await smokers. Just never encourage anyone to take up cigarette smoking, or to continue inhaling tobacco smoke for any reason other than a medical one.

You know, I've gotten to like you through your posts. So, my forum friend, ask, do you break into coughing when you laugh hard? Does it seem to take forever to "clear your throat" before falling asleep? Can you run a short distance to get out of the rain without feeling winded? I think I know the answers and I think you know there is no defending continued use of cigarettes - RYO or not.

Your e-pipe, e-cig, e-cigar can help you make a break your body will appreciate, short and/or long term.

[clavit]

That sounds tempting:
Coffee and a cigar in the morning :-)
I can't wait for my Ruyan Vegas to arrive!

[DeviLFisH]

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

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Maybe you'll be lucky, Trog. I had lunch again last week with my cousins. One is 89, doesn't use a walker or cane, sharp as a tack mentally, looks great -- and smoked four packs a day for 50 years, along with being an alcoholic lush. He quit cigs in his 60s. Another cousin at the lunch smoked two packs a day for 50 years, quit in his 60s, looks great at 84.

I'm in my 60s now. I quit a year ago and feel incredibly more vigorous. I smoked 30 cigarettes a day for 50 years. Also liked cigars and pipe tobacco many of those years. Now I use snus all the time, along with e-smoking, and puffing (never inhaling) a pipe once or twice a day. Yep, I'm a nic addict. ANYTHING BUT A CIGARETTE has got to be the motto we live by. Please read the scientific findings and get off inhaling cigarette tobacco. You can find a better way, and it is not too late for you. That is a defeatist excuse that's not provably true.

Here's one nice thing we can do for those younger than us: Never encourage any use of tobacco cigarettes. If it's not lung cancer that awaits smokers, it's emphysema or COPD or pancreatic cancer or tongue cancer or debilitating stroke or early heart attack ... take your pick among the sufferings that statistically await smokers. Just never encourage anyone to take up cigarette smoking, or to continue inhaling tobacco smoke for any reason other than a medical one.

You know, I've gotten to like you through your posts. So, my forum friend, ask, do you break into coughing when you laugh hard? Does it seem to take forever to "clear your throat" before falling asleep? Can you run a short distance to get out of the rain without feeling winded? I think I know the answers and I think you know there is no defending continued use of cigarettes - RYO or not.

Your e-pipe, e-cig, e-cigar can help you make a break your body will appreciate, short and/or long term.

great advise ,

now is matter of time ..each country allow e cigarette to commerical sell in stores rather online

I know some countries allow some don;t just like my country is kinda sad .thus make ppl hard to buy easily just like real cigarettes. just walk into the store and buy and easily avaliable.

[MNZ]

I read someplace ages ago that it takes 11 years for a smokers lungs to clear. My doctor has been telling me for good few years now that I need to be off cigarette smoking by the time I'm 50 or face the back end of my life coughing my lungs up into a bucket.

This I'm hoping is going to be the saviour for me. Like Bob I'm a serious nicoholic, I love good smoking, a great cigar is one of lifes wonder joys, a good pipe of well made tobacco is hard to beat, get it packed well and burning right and a pipe is hard to beat. The fullness and flavour of the tobacco is a pleasure. But that all has to end if I'm going to enjoy my remaining years. That's why I'm so enthusiastic about e-whatever you want to call it.

As it is now we do have to piss about something shocking to keep these fecking things going to give us our fix, and frankly alot of the stuff we are sucking in does taste like total crap. But this is still bleeding edge technology. It's going to take some major dollar input and research by the giants before we really see some major improvements come into the market. I can't wait until the Japanese get onto this... Will I buy a Sony, Panasonic or Mitsubishi e-whatever ? You're darn tooting I will !

[trog100]

just to add.. there are e cigs and there are e cigs.. a poor working wimp will cause major problems as a real cigarette replacement for a real smoker.. a placebo smoker will be happy with a wimp.. it will also satisfy their needs for quite some time..

my only gripe is the technology and price.. at say njoy prices even if the damn things worked perfectly and never failed 20 dollars a day on carts is not a price i can afford or am prepared) to pay..

a placebo smoker would not have this problem.. bob seems to use four different nicotine induction methods to feed his habit.. i simply try and use the e smoking method.. i could kick the old cig habit completely easily with e smoking except for one thing.. when away from home or car for any length of time the damn things cant be trusted to work consistently 100%.. my rolls up can..

having spent the last month touring europe on a camping type trip covering 5000 miles in nine different countries.. with three heavy e smokers on board the downside of e smoking was brought fully home.. also just how Dependant we all were on rechargeable bloody batteries of various kinds.. phones.. digit cameras.. computers.. now on top of that.. e smoking.. he he he..

in the end we all resorted to the good old faithfull and guaranteed to work roll-ups.. the twenty quid i spent on ten duty free 50gm packets of roll up tobacco on the ferry was much appreciated.. i could only buy ten packet but they were definitely needed.. he he

things like snus just dont appeal to any of us.. walking around with something akin to a tetly teabag stuffed under your lip seems well weird..

the bottom line is none of us would go far from home without the rolling tobacco back up.. home is okay.. away from home is the problem..

trog

[MacFan]

Devilfish, my best recommendation is to not even associative (at least heavily) e-cigs with hot-smoking. They simply are not the same thing and if we lean too heavily on hoping that e-cigs are a literal replacement for smoking, we're setting ourselves up for a letdown. Best to look at e-smoking as it's own activity that happens to be taking the place of smoking. I actually much prefer e-smoking to hot-smoking. It's a much nicer experience - and yes most of all, let's not play around with this incredible second chance we have

[MacFan]

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

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Maybe you'll be lucky, Trog. I had lunch again last week with my cousins. One is 89, doesn't use a walker or cane, sharp as a tack mentally, looks great -- and smoked four packs a day for 50 years, along with being an alcoholic lush. He quit cigs in his 60s. Another cousin at the lunch smoked two packs a day for 50 years, quit in his 60s, looks great at 84.

I'm in my 60s now. I quit a year ago and feel incredibly more vigorous. I smoked 30 cigarettes a day for 50 years. Also liked cigars and pipe tobacco many of those years. Now I use snus all the time, along with e-smoking, and puffing (never inhaling) a pipe once or twice a day. Yep, I'm a nic addict. ANYTHING BUT A CIGARETTE has got to be the motto we live by. Please read the scientific findings and get off inhaling cigarette tobacco. You can find a better way, and it is not too late for you. That is a defeatist excuse that's not provably true.

Here's one nice thing we can do for those younger than us: Never encourage any use of tobacco cigarettes. If it's not lung cancer that awaits smokers, it's emphysema or COPD or pancreatic cancer or tongue cancer or debilitating stroke or early heart attack ... take your pick among the sufferings that statistically await smokers. Just never encourage anyone to take up cigarette smoking, or to continue inhaling tobacco smoke for any reason other than a medical one.

You know, I've gotten to like you through your posts. So, my forum friend, ask, do you break into coughing when you laugh hard? Does it seem to take forever to "clear your throat" before falling asleep? Can you run a short distance to get out of the rain without feeling winded? I think I know the answers and I think you know there is no defending continued use of cigarettes - RYO or not.

Your e-pipe, e-cig, e-cigar can help you make a break your body will appreciate, short and/or long term.

Bravo, Bob!

[Spider]

I'm sticking to simply e-cigs, even having one tobacco cigarette is bad for your health in some way. I think that your body feels the benefits the day you stop smoking. I'm just glad that at least some of the damage done can be reversed!

I read an article in the paper the other day about a man from the UK who was over 100 years old and has been smoking cigarettes and cigars since he was ridiculously young (about 10 years old) whose doctor said his health is fine and there's nothing wrong with his lungs!

Crazy..

[Lady Python]

Originally Posted by DeviLFisH

that why some ppl in here got mix feelings???

Nah. DevilFish. I'm just greedy

I like smoking tobacco cigarettes and have no intention of giving up. I got my e-cig partly because of the smoking ban here in the UK, partly because I was curious, partly because I'm a bit of a rebel who likes sticking two fingers up at anti-smokers and partly because some of my best friends are non-smoking.

And so, I now do two things I like instead of one

[dnakr]

I never thought I would give up cigarettes when I first started with the e-cig, but it was very natural for me to switch over, I completely quit real cigs within the first week.

Do I ever get the urge to smoke a real cigarette? You bet I do - normally when I am at work and the stress level gets the best of me - I actually have to go somewhere quiet (like outside to my vehicle) and smoke an e-cig in order for my nerves to calm down. This is the only time it seems like it takes longer to get my nicotine fix.

I agree with trog - I hate being dependent on rechargeable batteries. I now wonder if I go out how many batteries do I need to take - is there a place I can recharge. Sometimes it feels like I am limited on what I can do. It does get annoying.