seriously beside having e cigarette beside u , you also having real cigarette?in your

[trog100]

You know, I've gotten to like you through your posts. So, my forum friend, ask, do you break into coughing when you laugh hard? Does it seem to take forever to "clear your throat" before falling asleep? Can you run a short distance to get out of the rain without feeling winded? I think I know the answers and I think you know there is no defending continued use of cigarettes - RYO or not.

just read your last post bob..

health wise do i feel better.. lets say my nasty smokers cough and my elder sons worse nasty smokers cough.. he is only in his early forties.. literally disappeared overnight when we started e smoking.. this did not required a complete cessation of real cigs.. simply a reduction in my case from fifty skinny roll ups per day to around ten.. we did not stop instantly.. the ten soon dropped with no withdrawal promlems at all to the odd one just to remind me what they were and what i "wasnt" missing.. i gave up getting pleasure from real cigs years ago.. it was purely a nictotine addiction and the need for something (a drug) to help keep me sane and more tolerant of those around me. .. he he

now for the (our) surprise none of us expected instant results.. at best we expected not to get worse than we already were.. i thought my cough and my sons was down to "damage done" the e smoking was for two things.. not making the "damage done" worse and the social pariah factor all smokers in the UK now have to face on a daily basis..

but it seems my cough wasnt down to "damage done" but simply the daily irritation caused by my (excessive) daily intake of real smoke.. i now dont cough at all..

as for catching buses when i run.. i dont use em.. he he.. i dont feel the same at 63 as i did at 43 but really have no idea of what i should feel like at 63 either..

i dont feel much different except for the missing cough.. also i can now take a big long drag on a real cig without it making me cough.. it had starting doing this for some time.. i used to take little short drags.. big ones would cause me to cough..

odd but the fact i can now take a huge deep drag on a real cig without breaking into a fit of coughing is one of the ways i use to judge my health improvement due to e smokng..

as for living to a ripe old age.. well with the state of the world as i see it i aint so sure as its simply being down to how "healthy" i am.. other factors could well negate any efforts on my part.. in short the world we now know is in imminent danger of disappearing up its own bum due to effects and causes way beyond my control..

as for playing the typical anti-smoker role.. i dont rest easy with that one.. having been a smoker for so many years i cant just change sides.. it aint in my nature.. in short i think the young have far more important things to worry about than smoking.. i remember the days when a ration off free fags was stantard issue to the troops.. i assume both our governments had a vaild reason for doing this..

do i cough when i laugh hard.. i rarely do this any more.. one of the downside of being a cynic.. he he he

how long will i live a useful and productive life.. or one worth living.. dunno.. but life is certainly better without my constant smokers cough.. he he

my nightmare.. a whole bunch of physically healthy but senile coffin dodging Alzheimer sufferers who will all become social pariahs cos the young will have no desire to fork out the cash to keep em alive for the extra twenty years if all the stuff said about smoking is for real.. he he

trog

[jamie]

No, one tobacco cigarette doesn't do health damage that is worth mentioning. No, people who have gone from 2 packs a day to 2 cigarettes a day aren't fooling themselves about feeling any benefit. Honestly, it's important to me that this board is a safe haven from the non-scientific, politically, financially, and personality-motivated hysteria with which we are surrounded elsewhere. Cigarettes are wicked enough, they don't need the hype. If I have to make smokers feel even more like crap to support ecigs, then I'm not sure I'd want to use the product anymore.

As always, just my 2 cents.

[leaford]

Yeah, I think doctors would advise cutting back if you can't quit.

[Spider]

No, one tobacco cigarette doesn't do health damage that is worth mentioning. No, people who have gone from 2 packs a day to 2 cigarettes a day aren't fooling themselves about feeling any benefit. Honestly, it's important to me that this board is a safe haven from the non-scientific, politically, financially, and personality-motivated hysteria with which we are surrounded elsewhere. Cigarettes are wicked enough, they don't need the hype. If I have to make smokers feel even more like crap to support ecigs, then I'm not sure I'd want to use the product anymore.

As always, just my 2 cents.

Personally I don't see what's wrong with trying to completely cut out tobacco cigarettes, I think it's a good thing!

Obviously cutting down is great, and I think whatever anyone has managed to cut out by e-smoking is a great thing, but I still think it's better to cut it out completely if you can.

I certainly don't see why wanting to give up by using e-cigs means that anyone has to give smokers a hard time - but I also don't see why it's bad to completely turn your back on tobacco and to not want to be a smoker anymore.

Spider

[sanneke]

It's willpower.
Mind over matter.

It's easier to get a quick fix in the morning with a real cigarette.

Someone here on the board compared it to fast food and a home cooked meal.
I like that. (Because I'm the cook LOL).

Today I have been struggeling, but have not smoked a real cig.

Just take it day by day.

But if I look back......going from 20 + cig. a day to none today!
WOW, that's awesome.

[Lady Python]

I'm 52 and have smoked since I was 12 years old, and been a 40 a day smoker for the best part of 35 years.

I can physically run rings round people more than half my age. Helps that I am not overweight (never been on a diet in my life - just one of life's natural skinnies) and I eat good food with plenty of veg.

For the past 3 weeks I have smoked a fraction of what I normally would, using my e-cig at home, at work, when visiting friends, even when driving. The money I saved using the e-cig was amazing.

Unfortunately, I broke my Mini e-cig by dropping it the other day and my DSE101 is a waste of time. Over the weekend I have spent approximately £20 on normal cigs. Tomorrow I am going to order another e-cig (probably a DSE103) until I can get a replacement battery for my Mini.

Do I think e-cigs will eventually replace normal cigs worldwide? Yes, I do and leaving aside any health issues, I can see them becoming very popular on the money saving aspect alone.

If someone could come up with an e-cig that could mimic a normal cigarette by 99% and had reliability, I think that would be a winner.

[jamie]

Personally I don't see what's wrong with trying to completely cut out tobacco cigarettes, I think it's a good thing!

Obviously cutting down is great, and I think whatever anyone has managed to cut out by e-smoking is a great thing, but I still think it's better to cut it out completely if you can.

I certainly don't see why wanting to give up by using e-cigs means that anyone has to give smokers a hard time - but I also don't see why it's bad to completely turn your back on tobacco and to not want to be a smoker anymore.

Hi Spider. For the record, as it were, I quit ciggies, and did not say, or mean, anything about not wanting people to quit ciggies. That's a different topic than my post.

[DeviLFisH]

yup as some members mention is kinda annoying about battery stuff or refills or woest spoil always getting problem with e cigarette. in the end get the real stuffs to ease the pain .

but I believe that is part and parcel of it?you gain some , you lose some.

I do hope by this week can recieved all my orders .

actually mind to ask penstyle cart..actually last how long?

for a one pack cigarette users?

I got the feeling I WILL SMOKE MORE with e cigarette??? becos in the office I will easily get the puff ! anywhere or at home...

whereas if I smoke normal cig , I will be limited because at home my parents don;t allow me to smoke .if found it will be even more sad for them! altought they know I smoke but I promise them I already quit
but I still secreatly smoke when they are sleeping or not at home.

[trog100]

i think a 20 a day would need three cart per day.. its impossible to fully empty the 1 ml from a cart.. around 30% will stay in the wool.. the way around this is to top up the cart with liquid.. not use a new one every time..

i would call myself an ex 25 a day man.. even a 30 a day man.. i get thru around two to three ml per day.. this is either with dripping or topping up.. i think just using carts i would need four to five 1 ml carts per day..

it varies with each user.. one thing u can be sure of.. the claimed one cart equals 20 cigs is utter rubbish..

trog

[DeviLFisH]

i think a 20 a day would need three cart per day.. its impossible to fully empty the 1 ml from a cart.. around 30% will stay in the wool.. the way around this is to top up the cart with liquid.. not use a new one every time..

i would call myself an ex 25 a day man.. even a 30 a day man.. i get thru around two to three ml per day.. this is either with dripping or topping up.. i think just using carts i would need four to five 1 ml carts per day..

it varies with each user.. one thing u can be sure of.. the claimed one cart equals 20 cigs is utter rubbish..

trog

yours model is mini or penstyle?

gee ....need so many per day?like that very fast running out man have to order alot standby..