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TropicalBob · 07-26-2008, 03:26 AM

Naz, good on them being in the refrigerator. Keep the foul ones, so Dr. Loi might be able to run lab tests on them. Is there any chance you contaminated them after opening one? Or were they bad when you first opened the plastic?

Nazareth · 07-26-2008, 03:36 AM

first opened the plastic- the secodn one I coudl even smell through hte plastic- it was that strong

TropicalBob · 07-26-2008, 03:40 AM

Thanks. I messaged Dr. Loi to ask him to read this thread and give an opinion on whether this might be serious or nothing at all. If it's serious, and if you received contaminated cartridges, then shipping and handling procedures might need to be changed .. to refrigerated shipment, for instance. Lots of medicines -- and most foods -- have to move that way. This liquid we inhale is not a food, but it sure is a consumable via mouth and lungs.

trog100 · 07-26-2008, 03:41 AM

i have some ruyan carts coming.. left the ruyan facotory in december 2007.. to quote..

High (16mg) simple packing(Produced in Dec, 2007 with two years validity)

this implies a long shelf life.. but thats just ruyan carts.. as is rightly pointed out we really have no idea of what we are sucking in.. having said this i dont see any easy answer if we wish to keep smoking the things.. i also think making noise over the issue will work against us not for us..

the whole thing is a calculated risk i am prepared to take.. to those who are not i would suggest finding some other system to satisfy their needs.. not makes noises that are likely to get the whole lot banned before they are otherwise likely to be..

sometime bob i wonder about u.. a big T or P agent provocateur might take the same line as u do sometimes.. u do play up the risk element a little to much for me.. he he he

trog

DeviLFisH · 07-26-2008, 03:49 AM

I do noticed there is many types of cartidges out there

and I can said they are not from the same manufacture .

why I feel abit worry ...actually I AM NOT WORRY COS I SMOKE TONES OF REAL Cigarette for many yrs

is the liquid is where and which factory mixed??

somemore majority of e smoking stuffs orginal from china , just that some companies rename and label under their brand .

PS" china is scary , they can cook or put any stuffs inside the foods just to earn money"

Since Dr loi stay near my local , in asia , he should know how scary china is ...there is many bad incident how the foods they made sell to tourists and local...

the place is dam freaking dirty ect

their main aim is earn money .

karenwest1961 · 07-26-2008, 05:43 AM

Oriental flavor tastes like ****. Maybe you got a batch of them. Seriously they're rank and smell rank too. And it took for-freakin-EVER for that flavor to leave my atomizer. Blech!

Nazareth · 07-26-2008, 07:30 AM

I suppose it's possible Karen- these really do smell and taste like rotton eggs, but the site I got them from doesn't list oriental ones- but perhaps they got soem in by mistake- I only know there's no way I can smoke them- I even tried cuttign them with bickfords strawberry extract and soem glycerin, and it's still very bad

UncleMidriff · 07-26-2008, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karenwest1961

Oriental flavor tastes like ****. Maybe you got a batch of them. Seriously they're rank and smell rank too. And it took for-freakin-EVER for that flavor to leave my atomizer. Blech!

Heh... I got the Oriental flavor from Janty, and I quite like it.

leaford · 07-26-2008, 08:37 AM

I won't go so far as to say I LIKE it, but it didn't make me rinse my mouth out with listerine or anything.

TropicalBob · 07-26-2008, 02:15 PM

Dr. Loi is getting involved. Opinions on safety mean nothing. Facts would.

Trog, I recently retired early after being a newspaper reporter my entire life post-college. I like this analogy: If 10,000 people cross a downtown intersection without incident, that is not news. I don't care about that fact. That's the way things should be. But if one is struck and killed by a car at that intersection, it's news. I'm interested. It was my job to see if finding a "why" couldn't prevent another such fatal incident.

I have a natural -- and fierce -- drive to find and change things that threaten people, things that are not simply a matter of personal choice. X-sports? Great. Contaminated e-cig carts? I wanna know why, with what, how'd it happen, who's responsible, can we prevent it ever happening again. I see real importance in finding those answers and making them catalysts for change.

That's where I come from with every single curiosity about the safety of e-smoking, the long-term effects. Shoot, I bet I could have retired rich if I had worked for Big T or P, instead of a succession of newspapers now going bankrupt.

07-26-2008, 05:43 AM	#26
karenwest1961 Super Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 829	Oriental flavor tastes like ***. Maybe you got a batch of them. Seriously they're rank and smell rank too. And it took for-freakin-EVER for that flavor to leave my atomizer. Blech! __________________ www.tracesjourney.com* Last edited by karenwest1961; 07-26-2008 at 05:46 AM. Reason: cuz oriental flavor tastes like crap!

07-26-2008, 08:37 AM	#29
leaford Supporting Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA USA Posts: 1,764	I won't go so far as to say I LIKE it, but it didn't make me rinse my mouth out with listerine or anything. __________________ Sadly, we live in a society where education is equated with elitism, and ignorance is equated with authenticity.

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07-26-2008, 03:26 AM	#21
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,530	Naz, good on them being in the refrigerator. Keep the foul ones, so Dr. Loi might be able to run lab tests on them. Is there any chance you contaminated them after opening one? Or were they bad when you first opened the plastic?

07-26-2008, 03:36 AM	#22
Nazareth Super Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,302	first opened the plastic- the secodn one I coudl even smell through hte plastic- it was that strong

07-26-2008, 03:40 AM	#23
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,530	Thanks. I messaged Dr. Loi to ask him to read this thread and give an opinion on whether this might be serious or nothing at all. If it's serious, and if you received contaminated cartridges, then shipping and handling procedures might need to be changed .. to refrigerated shipment, for instance. Lots of medicines -- and most foods -- have to move that way. This liquid we inhale is not a food, but it sure is a consumable via mouth and lungs.

07-26-2008, 03:41 AM	#24
trog100 Manufacturer Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 2,067	i have some ruyan carts coming.. left the ruyan facotory in december 2007.. to quote.. High (16mg) simple packing(Produced in Dec, 2007 with two years validity) this implies a long shelf life.. but thats just ruyan carts.. as is rightly pointed out we really have no idea of what we are sucking in.. having said this i dont see any easy answer if we wish to keep smoking the things.. i also think making noise over the issue will work against us not for us.. the whole thing is a calculated risk i am prepared to take.. to those who are not i would suggest finding some other system to satisfy their needs.. not makes noises that are likely to get the whole lot banned before they are otherwise likely to be.. sometime bob i wonder about u.. a big T or P agent provocateur might take the same line as u do sometimes.. u do play up the risk element a little to much for me.. he he he trog

07-26-2008, 03:49 AM	#25
DeviLFisH Super Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 836	I do noticed there is many types of cartidges out there and I can said they are not from the same manufacture . why I feel abit worry ...actually I AM NOT WORRY COS I SMOKE TONES OF REAL Cigarette for many yrs is the liquid is where and which factory mixed?? somemore majority of e smoking stuffs orginal from china , just that some companies rename and label under their brand . PS" china is scary , they can cook or put any stuffs inside the foods just to earn money" Since Dr loi stay near my local , in asia , he should know how scary china is ...there is many bad incident how the foods they made sell to tourists and local... the place is dam freaking dirty ect their main aim is earn money .

07-26-2008, 07:30 AM	#27
Nazareth Super Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,302	I suppose it's possible Karen- these really do smell and taste like rotton eggs, but the site I got them from doesn't list oriental ones- but perhaps they got soem in by mistake- I only know there's no way I can smoke them- I even tried cuttign them with bickfords strawberry extract and soem glycerin, and it's still very bad

07-26-2008, 02:15 PM	#30
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,530	Dr. Loi is getting involved. Opinions on safety mean nothing. Facts would. Trog, I recently retired early after being a newspaper reporter my entire life post-college. I like this analogy: If 10,000 people cross a downtown intersection without incident, that is not news. I don't care about that fact. That's the way things should be. But if one is struck and killed by a car at that intersection, it's news. I'm interested. It was my job to see if finding a "why" couldn't prevent another such fatal incident. I have a natural -- and fierce -- drive to find and change things that threaten people, things that are not simply a matter of personal choice. X-sports? Great. Contaminated e-cig carts? I wanna know why, with what, how'd it happen, who's responsible, can we prevent it ever happening again. I see real importance in finding those answers and making them catalysts for change. That's where I come from with every single curiosity about the safety of e-smoking, the long-term effects. Shoot, I bet I could have retired rich if I had worked for Big T or P, instead of a succession of newspapers now going bankrupt.