the real reason we are having problems with our e cigs

[trog100]

the bottom line is ruyan aimed these things at the occasional "restaurant user" they are not and never were intended for every day use.. they were never intended to replace a 30 a day mans habit..

ruyan make this clear.. no body else does.. the high failure rate is for one simple reason.. we are trying too turn a 10 puff a day device into a thousand puff a day device..

used as ruyan intended the ones i throw away after two weeks use could well last two years..

trog

[TropicalBob]

I don't really agree on this, but wish Ludo would chime in to respond because I can't speak for Ruyan's intentions.

[DeviLFisH]

I kinda agreed with this

if u wanna smoke constant like regular cigarette whole day

either u changed lots of car , use more battery and refill more e liquid.

I feel why government still don;t really into "offical approving of this device" mainly it got mix reaction used it as a qutting device to quit smoking.

it may even make u smoke more actually .



example when I smoke my regular cigarette , I have get out of my office walk to my smoking area to light up.

next I don;t"official can smoke at home " my parents don;t allow .because I staying with my parents , next they know I smoke been caught at home smoking before ya ya yes I am already old enough but in asian here parents are not so open minded next overall smoking is bad .

so sometime I sneak hide in my bedroom to smoke ..
will use fan to blow the sense away or spray some nice aroma to hide the smell of the smoke..to prevent my parents know ." actually in their mind I still feel they know me still into s moking" but I will feel sad ...if been caught again by them because I promise them to quit.

now come to this e cigarette I CAN SMOKE EVEN THEY ARE IN LIVING ROOM , because don;t have smell ....thus seem like I smoke more !

but on better heatlhy side ...only inhale nicotine..
"but some susbstances we still don;t know whats inside?PG stuffs ect"
next don;t know where is the souces to make this juice.


thus if I smoke real ones acutally the natural stop me smoke more..

because I have to get out to places where can smoke.
once it finish , you still need more crave but naturally u will stop because it burn out.

or either u take another stick to smoke overall at most two ..


than go back to office ..and work .with no smoke.

but now u can stick ur ass on ur chair and smoke non stop with e smoke .

thus this "maybe overload the atomiser" and burn up ????

I personally is addict here I tend to smoke dam fast and my atomiser very fast heat up ...I have to stop awhile than try again within mins to keep smoke ..I KNOW this will cook up the atomiser but ! is the conveient to smoke here any time any where..

or becos I cannot control here my will power on nicotine is weak

[dc2k08]

Originally Posted by trog100

ruyan make this clear.. .

trog

hi trog, could you link to your source please. i have never seen something that describes this intention.
thanks
dc

[trog100]

Originally Posted by dc2k08

hi trog, could you link to your source please. i have never seen something that describes this intention.
thanks
dc

to quote a reply to bob on another thread..

my conclusion and my sons conclusions.. conclusions reached after three people using the devices for three months.. much thought and testing have gone in my conclusions..

the bottom line is bob.. people have copied the ruyan idea but not made it clear what the ruyan idea is all about..

to quote ruyan america...

Welcome to the Ruyan America information website. The Ruyan family of products, including the V-8 E-cigarette, the Ruyan Vegas E-cigar, the E-pipe, the varieties of replacement cartridges and other accessories, are designed to be used as cigarette alternatives and smoking substitutes, allowing smokers to satisfy their cravings for nicotine in places and situations where they otherwise would not be allowed to smoke by law, regulation or common courtesy.

read it bob... its bloody obvious for those that wish to see it..

there is no suggestion that these things are intended to replace tobbaco cigarettes full time.. the entire consumable pricing structure also assures occasional use.. five dollars per cart assures occasional use for sure..

a ruyan guarantee is only valid if ruyan consumables are used..

of course none of this is what new e smokers want to hear but the truth often isnt..

trog

ps.. google ruyan america

[TropicalBob]

No way will I comment further on these conclusions. I hope Ludo answers you. Over and out on this one.

[DeviLFisH]

Originally Posted by trog100

to quote a reply to bob on another thread..

my conclusion and my sons conclusions.. conclusions reached after three people using the devices for three months.. much thought and testing have gone in my conclusions..

the bottom line is bob.. people have copied the ruyan idea but not made it clear what the ruyan idea is all about..

to quote ruyan america...

Welcome to the Ruyan America information website. The Ruyan family of products, including the V-8 E-cigarette, the Ruyan Vegas E-cigar, the E-pipe, the varieties of replacement cartridges and other accessories, are designed to be used as cigarette alternatives and smoking substitutes, allowing smokers to satisfy their cravings for nicotine in places and situations where they otherwise would not be allowed to smoke by law, regulation or common courtesy.

read it bob... its bloody obvious for those that wish to see it..

there is no suggestion that these things are intended to replace tobbaco cigarettes full time.. the entire consumable pricing structure also assures occasional use.. five dollars per cart assures occasional use for sure..

a ruyan guarantee is only valid if ruyan consumables are used..

of course none of this is what new e smokers want to hear but the truth often isnt..

trog

"allowing smokers to satisfy their cravings for nicotine in places and situations where they otherwise would not be allowed to smoke by law, regulation or common courtesy."

this statment kinda true here , I now can smoke in office , life and even in cinema sneak smoking

so concustion make us smoke even more?

[trog100]

and the reason i dare say all this is because i know no sellor will come in and attempt to deny it.. i will be happy if they do..

trog

[DeviLFisH]

Originally Posted by trog100

and the reason i dare say all this is because i know no sellor will come in and attempt to deny it.. i will be happy if they do..

trog

personally I feel .."is an cheap alternative " for smoking

even the most expensvie cart , e lquid still cheaper than buying a pack of cigarette in most countries out there.

for example this 4 days of my e smoke , I constant smoke ever more .BUT I save a few packs of cigarette money .my present left over sticks is left from monday ..this 4 days I most smoke 3 real cigarettes here because I got another alternative to smoke here , but I have to constant smoke to ease my urge to smoke real one.



but it do make u quit smoking for some ..those have good will power out there.

but sadly for me is nope , I just realised is another cheap alternative to smoke here + real cigarette .

now I am addicted to the cart...e liquid ..scare my stock very fast run out and hate it have to order online ..

[trog100]

also if anyone takes the touble (i have but never kept the link) to google out an early ruyan promo video.. u will see a bunch of well off looking restaurant diners using.. i wont say "smoking" several ruyan products.. including the e pipe..

take note there is not a single sign of anything that even vaguely reassembles "smoke".. not exactly like one of leaford or rats videos..

trog