Loong Totem V9. Yes it's all finally arrived

[mixos]

Thanks Mixos, that helps to clarify the situation a bit. If you wouldn't mind, just going by per puff comparisons (10 puffs = 1 full cigarette ( I know that going by nicotine comparisons htis is different, and that it takes abotu 4-5 puffs to = 1 real cigg for nicotine levels, but let's just go by 1 puff of ecigg = 1 puff of real cigg vapor/smoke-wise & 10 puffs = 1 real cigg) woudl you guestimate that you puffed hte loongtotem abotu = to what you would have puffed on real ciggs for 1 pack per day? More? Less? I know hwen I first got my penstyl,e, I was puffing way more than what I would if I went out for a real cigg- I was puffing constantly all day whereas when I smoke real ciggs, I go for an hour at times between cigarettes- I don't smoke hte ecigg liek I do real ciggs, I tend to puff constantly all day instead of takign breaks between 'smoking' sessions like I do with hte real ciggs.

Second question (I know I'm beign a bit of a pain, but these are important questions if you don't mind takign hte tiem to quick answer them?) About hte drag, it looked liek in your vids that you could only drag for abotu 3-4 seconds before light started blinking- is htis abotu right? More? less?

Third- have all your cartridges so far been very consistent with the vapor on the majority of drags? Any weak hits? or Patterns of weak hits besides the battery runnign down? Did you experience anythign like Ned did with inconsitent vapor at all?

edit- questions 4 & 5 already been answered in your other thread Mixos-

sorry for all the questions- You're probably thinking 'Just buy hte durn htigns and get it over with' lol

Ok,

1st question- if i understand correctly you are asking if i smoke on the v9 more or less that a real smoke? I would say i am about the same if anything i use the v9 abit more then i would on real smokes, coz generally when i smoked real smokes it was always one after the other.

2nd question- I took of the cartridge and took a drag directly on the battery (coz its easier due to the fact that if i suck long with the cartridge on the smoke becomes too much and i have to release earlier) and that light went off after about 10seconds. In the video the flashes are when i realease and the light is just indicating to take it easy and dont overuse (well thats what the manual says)

3rd question- 90% of the orginal tobbaco flavour cartridges have been very very very good. The fruit flavoured ones seem to be abit inconisitant, but this may be due to the older style cartridges being used. The most recent batch of flavours they sent me have been much more consistant then the other fruit ones, they are very similar in vapour output to the orginal flavour

[trog100]

bob we also have the common sense with a little knowledge brigade.. those who know how much liquid at what strength they have to consume to get their fix.. and those that also know about human subjectively..

we also have u.. u have a brigade all to yourself.. bless u..

trog

[Nazareth]

Thanks Mixos- it appears that when you say you are gettign two days worth of smoking htem, it apparently means you are getting 2 + packs of real ciggs worth of vapor (I think you said you were formerly a 1 pack a day smoker? That's abotu what I smoked too, so I can relate to what you are describing). If you are smoking abotu hte same, or more, then it's safe to say you are idneed getting the = of two or more real packs worth of vapor rougly, which is I think what we're all wondering and which you confirmed. That's good news for us

As for hte nicotine- I personally want ot cut down my nic content, but for htose that don't, I think keepign hte carts topped with smoking juice woudl give good nic for a good day or more if htey desire. This too is good news.

I know some peopel want truly disposable and not have to fuss with hte devices, but I beleive that even with our traditional penstyles, minis etc, the nicotine starts off much stronger than the 8 mg loongs, but I beleive it quickly diminishes, and really, who knows how logn it lasts? I certainly don't htink we're gettign very good nic hits from about 1/2 way through our carts at all. So again, if we want consistent nic hits, we still have to top off with pens.

just for reference: 1 pack of real ciggs has 20 ciggs, 1 cigg produces about 10 full drags- 10 x 20 = 200 full drags. I know my penstyle will easily produce 200 full drags WHEN it's workign right (which so far hasn't been a pelasant experience with dying atomizers). With a new atomizer, fresh battery, and a cartridge that is soaked well from the factory, 200+ full draws is certainly a possibility (but again, the nic levels certainly don't last that long). I've gotten 400 + full draws before off one cart- which is hte = of 2 real packs vapor-wise- however, again, the buggy atomizers are a major letdown, and hte vapor certainly wasn't doing quite as well towards the end as your videos of the loong on day two were doing, alhtouhg, my pen was still producing pretty good vapor still- but again, this was with a brand new atomizer, which only lasted 1 1/2 weeks.

I think the loong is showing pretty good strength in the length the carts last vapor-wise, but again, the nic levels unavoidably can't be maintained without topping off- but neither can traditional eciggs liek hte pen, so either way, we're forced to top off either device- the only downside ot hte loong is that it starts with much lower nic levels, but ultimately, we really all 'should' cut down on nics levels- not htat we will, but we probably should- Bah- scratch that last sentance lol.

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

You're reading my mind today, naz - posting what I was about to! The diminishing cart strength is something I've noticed, to the point where half-smoked carts get tossed into the to-be-squeezed box. I'm considering cutting the melange with some high-nic liquid just because I feel there's very little except PG going into it...

Emp

[trog100]

i would love some 40mg per 1 ml liquid.. double the strength we have.. it seems to me it would solve my problems.. it might kill a few users but thats them not me.. he he he

the basis of the one cart equaling a packet of twenty real cigs was based on the number of puffs a 1 ml cart could produces.. it had bugger all to do with nicotine levels..

one real cig = 15 puffs.. twenty real cigs = 300 puffs.. one 1 ml cart = 300 puffs.. this is purely a puff count.. it has nothing at all to do with nicotine delivery..

trog

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

You ought to speak to Jim Loi, trog. I think he brewed and tried some crazy-strength liquid. The man's a legend - it's like watching Dr Jekyll at work

In the sense that he tries his potions out on himself, not turns into a psycho, obviously...

[MNZ]

Loong totem can make up whatever strength of liquid you want, but from what I've heard talked about on here they will only make it up in insanely huge quantities and it will cost the GNP of a small country to buy and that's before they add on their idea of shipping and handling costs ... think huge for that one !

[Nazareth]

Yup- 1000 cartridges is minimum order for custom strengths, and hte strendths go beyond 32 mg apparently

[trog100]

they do sell liquid.. when the games are over some higher strength liquid might work out cheaper than the higher strength carts and make more economic sense..

trog

[trog100]

the other factor is what does their strength grading mean.. other people use the old per ml grading.. it seems to me they are using the amount thats in one of their carts.. a different system than everyone else is using..

their 8 mg is probably the same as the other 16 or 18 mg.. they need to make things like this clear and so does everyone else..

trog