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Old 08-19-2008, 06:23 PM   #11
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Kit, perhaps he just trusts you not to give it to kids/pets!!
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:29 PM   #12
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Thanks cashmere

This may be a reason to condition that VG does not turn allergies
But I have not yet found a case cited with VG

this is what I found on VG

Vegetable Glycerin: a derivative of oils and fats purely plant. Non toxic, non-irritating, but may be non-moisturizing to too much
making dry skin

In this case, why continue to use the PG?
Is this a problem of cost?
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:32 PM   #13
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Kit, perhaps he just trusts you not to give it to kids/pets!!
Maybe or its small enough just to be posted !
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:32 PM   #14
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Cost is probably the major factor (but I don't know for sure). Could be just inertia - they started off with PG and their manufacturing and procurement is set up to deal with bulk volumes of it. It's a big deal to change something as fundemental as this in a corporate environment. And if it's cost neutral why make the effort? If VG was cheaper, that's what we'd be vaping, though.

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Old 08-19-2008, 06:40 PM   #15
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Is the marketing of liquid non-PG, is in connection with a possible ban of liquid with PG?
Let me explain: in France, the safety agency recommends great caution in the Use of the electronic cigarette pending further analysis
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This is something we all need to read. Here it is translated:

PG investigated
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:41 PM   #16
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In all cases JC is turning liquid market in the world of electronics cigarette
It is seen and it is a good initiative
it proves that they are interested in what they sell
It is a good business strategy

Are they t cases proved allergic to inhalation or contact PG?
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:42 PM   #17
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As far as I know, PG is the cheaper one (certainly in bulk).
But also remember the report TB just found ... maybe PG, as long as you aren't over-sensitive to it, IS better in the end, because of the safety to your health that it seems to give, if that report remains unrefuted... no idea if VG would have those same results.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:43 PM   #18
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Are they t cases proved allergic to inhalation or contact PG?
Highly Concentrated PG (Bickford Flavors, straight PG, etc...) Give me Headaches, Night Sweat (and even day sweats for that matter) and especially the runs !!!!

Not a pretty sight to see, that's forsure ...
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:47 PM   #19
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I found this: "acute poisoning in propylene glycol in an infant two years"
Environnement domestique et intoxication aiguë au propylène glycol chez un nourrisson de deux ans. À propos d'une observation inhabituelle*=*Acute household propylene glycol intoxication in a two-year-old toddler: about an unusual case report
I should mention that there was no question of judging one or the other but to ask questions
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We're getting food grade PG drops at a time and not in quantities to constitute overdose. I'm not sure how the child ingested the PG. I tried to translate the page with Babelfish but still was not a good translation. My guess is the child may have gotten hold of some antifreeze made with industrial PG. I couldn't imagine that a 2 year old child would drink down a bottle of lotion.
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