Odd observation.

[Ryle]

I received my first E-cig on Aug 29th and when I was smoking the cartridges that came with it (they lasted me til Sept 3rd ish) I noticed that I had this perpetual hyperness to me. Sort of jittery and twitchy, like when you have WAY too much coffee. I didn't think anything of it as at the same time I was running on about 1hr or so of sleep a night. But from the 4th until yesterday (the 10th) I was smoking JC's liquid as well as some strawberry that I got from electroniccigarettesales.com and the jitteriness went away. But I as also getting mroe sleep so again I didnt think it had much of a connection with the E-cig. But yesterday I got more of the same cartridges that came with my starter kit and have been smoking them since last night and now I've got that twitch again and I slept for a good 6 hours last night (which is way good for me since im an insomiac). Not that I'm complaining mind you, its a cool feeling but I was wondering if maybe it's something to do with the nicotine? The cartridges that I ordered, the JC liquid, and the strawberry from electroniccigarettesales are all high, but I cant think of anything else that would be causing this. Has anyone else had a similar experiance? Or atleast have a clue what I'm on about? LOL just sort of wanting to make sure I'm not losing my mind over here.

[mEtoke2]

What is the brand of your first e-cig and carts?

[Ryle]

This might sound odd but im not sure what to call em to be honest. Theyre the carts that came with my DSE901B

[Ruby]

Ryle - I got that jittery twitchy thing on my first day with the wicked juice. I figured it was just a bit of an od of nicotine because the dose is 36mg and I was unable to leave my new toy alone.
Only been a few days but I am taking longer breaks between vaping - and no jitters.

I also don't know what to call the carts that came with my 901 - my packs just say: mini cigarette atomiser cartridges.

[Ryle]

Ryle - I got that jittery twitchy thing on my first day with the wicked juice. I figured it was just a bit of an od of nicotine because the dose is 36mg and I was unable to leave my new toy alone.
Only been a few days but I am taking longer breaks between vaping - and no jitters.

I also don't know what to call the carts that came with my 901 - my packs just say: mini cigarette atomiser cartridges.

I've thought maybe it was a nic od but wouldnt I have the same jitters from the JC juice and the other strawberry that I bought since theyre all high strength? or is high for one not so high for the other??

Also, Im intrigued to try that wicked juice, I hear good things, but everyone that seems to be talking about it seems to be in the UK, I'm in the states and really dont want to pay for intl shipping lol

[trog100]

i think too much nicotine generates a hyper active feeling.. think being the operative word.. none of us really know exactly whats in the liquid we smoke.. or exactly how much nicotine we get.. the whole experience is a bit hit and miss..

trog

[MNZ]

Hi Ryle,

You're not the first to remark on something similar when first using an e-cig. Infact when I first got mine I had similar symptoms. These have now pretty much gone away thankfully.

What I think causes them is associated with the way we tend to use our e-cigs when we first get them, that's pretty much flat out use. That coupled with none of the bad products from tobacco smoke to cancel out or reduce the affects of the nicotine we inhale.

Lets consider those two things a little more.

Cigarettes have a natural finish point, we burm em and bin em. E-cigs don't have this cut off so we tend to continue using the thing for longer periods of time per session. This is of course going to increase our overall intake of nicotine. Good comparison you made to having way to much coffee. The remedy is in the hands of the user to self-regulate the amount of time spent sucking the thing.

One of the fantastic advantages of e-cigs is there are none of the bad things in the vapour mist that are present in cigarette smoke. In particular there is no CO (carbon monoxide) or CO2 (carbon dioxide) both of these gases have the effect of reducing the "hit" we get from the nicotine contained in tobacco smoke. If you like it can be said that we get effects of a far purer form of nicotine rather than the effects from a junk cocktail of things in tobacco smoke.

There are a couple of other minor side effects you may notice from e-cigs and both are associated with the PG (propylene gylcol) that is used to create the vapour. The first is some dryness and slight irritation of the mouth and throat. PG does tend to do this and it quickly passes as you become accustomed to using it. Increase the amount of water you drink (never a bad thing) and try sucking a hard sweet, I use tic tacs. The increased water intake will help the dry mouth and the sucking action soothes the throat irritation.

The second is some tiredness or heaviness in your limbs. This is related to what happens to PG in your body, PG is metabolized very quickly into lactic acid and is then excreated rapidly from your system. Lactic acid is also produced by muscle tissue when you exercise, that's what gives you the burn feeling, most people will have experienced a "stitch" at some point, this is an excess build up of lactic acid in the muscles.

Neither of these two are a significant issue and do go away quite quickly.

One last thing ... Some people are more sensitive to PG than others, if you have anything more than some minor niggles using PG or the niggles get worse either consider stopping completely or switching to a VG (vegetable gylerin) based juice.

I hope that helps

[Ryle]

oh so its a combination of the nicotine and the pg making me feel like I'm back in the days where my extracurricular activities too me to the darker side of legality. Gotcha.. just wanted to affirm that I'm not going nuts. This just means that if i don't want to drink coffee... just e smoke more. Though it also means I'm going to be quite twitchy until i quit using this thing like a pacifier.

[Denni]

I had the same problem but I think I'm calming down now

It helps that my sole mini will give a burnt taste if I suck it too much. But it's nice to be able to puff away (for an ex pipe smoker!) so I'm going to order a 'spare' (lol).

The answer would be either to switch to lower nicotine or not inhale every drag.

[SmokingInTexas]

OK. I've seen this several times now, and I am curious....What are "niggles"?

Also, do they make a salve or cream that you can use to get rid of them?






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