Warning: Johnson creek e-liquid

[stevoG]

Maybe i am being uneducated by asking this but why would Mac have to get a lab test done on a product he "mixes and makes himself" with products that are all natural as he claims? Dont you think he would have a list of all the percentages of product he puts in there? Im sorry baked a cake from scratch with all natural ingredients im pretty sure i would know what is in there still when im done

[sanneke]

Where does Mac make his magic liquid?
In his kitchen, his basement, his garage, his spare bedroom or his laboratory?

I would like to know.

Janty showed where their stuff is being made.

[ned Zeppelin]

Does it really matter long as his products are good

[coinmaster]

Maybe i am being uneducated by asking this but why would Mac have to get a lab test done on a product he "mixes and makes himself" with products that are all natural as he claims? Dont you think he would have a list of all the percentages of product he puts in there? Im sorry baked a cake from scratch with all natural ingredients im pretty sure i would know what is in there still when im done

Maybe he needs to get a lab test to ensure that he's legally able to sell the stuff?

And secondly, why on earth would a manufacturer list their entire recipe, including ingredients and percentages? That would be instant death for a supplier surely? Trade secrets are there for a reason

[coinmaster]

Does it really matter long as his products are good

I'm with you Ned - it seems some people have it in for Christian whan all he's trying to do is supply us with a good product.

I say, let him get any problems sorted - give the guy a break. I'm sure over the next few months or so the product will be refined and (hopefully) perfected. Personally, I feel much more comfortable purchasing from JC than from, say, .......... . . . . but that's just me

[sanneke]

Does it really matter long as his products are good

You're right.......but his products are not good,

Questions are being asked and he's not answering.

What a great way to bury your new business in the ground.

[stevoG]

Maybe he is using us for practice for an upcoming presidential race. Promising people what they want to hear and in the end doing the exact opposite of what was promised

[mEtoke2]

You're right.......but his products are not good,

Questions are being asked and he's not answering.

What a great way to bury your new business in the ground.

Obviously you didn't read post # 74 of this thread.

[mEtoke2]

or #93. What's your beef with Mac? Vote with your pocket book. Just don't buy from him.

[ned Zeppelin]

I personally think people should start to leave poor old Mac alone.


At first everybody was banging on how great this juice was and now suddenly because of atomiser problems etc etc etc people are starting ganging up on him for any excuse as I think this all should stop immediately as it is starting to get out of hand instead of trying to support him and advise him how to improve his products.


People shouldn't be dripping their atomiser anyway they weren't designed for this and suppliers and manufacturers have told me this but we do and we should all take the consequences if things go wrong and not blame liquid manufacturers, cigarette manufacturers, or suppliers as this is still in the early stage of developing and all types of quality are out there which do differ from manufacturer to manufacturer as I have personally found that out with the research and money I have spent.

If electronic cigarettes had been around for the last 10 years and we were getting these problems with liquid then we all should have a case for complaining.


Do we ask all manufacturers what ingredients they put in their products? No because we wouldn't probably get any answers so we never bother. Do you think Mr Kentucky fried chicken would give is his recipe? I don't think so. Come on there has to be trade secrets specially regarding ingredients. As long as we are assured they are safe that should be enough.


But because the electronic cigarettes and the liquid ingredients is so new. None of us know the future of the implications. Even if tests are done none of us will really find out for years to come if this is damaging in any way to our health.


And folks I'm sorry for banging on but I feel something needs to be said and some will disagree with what I have said and I am not in any way involved with J. C. and do not use their juice mainly because I'd only prefer the true tobacco flavour type liquid and I don't like anything with almonds and fruity flavours but this is probably because it's a British thing especially regarding smoking products.


So let's leave poor old Mac alone as the least has made an effort to try to improve and give choice to what is already out there.