An experiment - Toxins from an Electronic Cigarettes vs a Real Cigarette - FDA "Approved"

[BigJimW]

Originally Posted by fcuk112

great video, i shudder to think of all that brown gunk i've been putting in my lungs. fortunately our lungs clear themselves up over time, although it will take many years.

Our lungs do clear, but the problem is, we still elevated our risks of lung cancer even after quitting smoking!

The late Andy Kaufman, comedian, died of lung cancer and he never once smoked in his life. Imagine our chances.

By stopping analogs, sure, you add years to your life. But what rails me to no end is the fact that we live in a society that, on one hand, can't stand a smoker, but on the other hand, sees it as a great money making venue.

We live in a society that would on one hand pollute your lungs and make them great profits, yet ban alternatives far safer for the almighty $$$ that is lost. And they dig up old Nazi tactics to do it.

(Yes, Hitler didn't like smoking and took a lot of steps, similar to the good ol' USA, to erradicate it)

Hitler thought that only Jews, non aryan, and homosexuals, felt the need to smoke. The US anti-smoking wackos today brands us as weak, non conformists.

The Nazi way of the job is very parallell to what is happening in the US today. Maybe we should have just elected Hitler as President and saved decades of work.

[Vapinginmyboots]

[quote=BigJimW;398375]By stopping analogs, sure, you add years to your life. But what rails me to no end is the fact that we live in a society that, on one hand, can't stand a smoker, but on the other hand, sees it as a great money making venue.

Society is bi-bolar. We as a country are heading into a very bad place, politics aside, smokers and how they are being herded into a lower-category group by those that think smokers are to be considered a lower class are just a symptom of how things are maybe going to progress IMHO. Last I checked, our country wasnt a class based system at all. This rails me to no end as well because the logic of that doesnt have a stopping point. We can stick it to the man many times but not forever. My 2 cents and happy vaping to all while we can!

[NPerez]

Ingredients of cigarettes: Combusted
vs
Ingredients of e-cigs: not combusted

I think that if you were to vape the ingredients of an analog, you may not get any brown spots at all, but it would still be pretty dangerous.

In the same vein, if you were to combust the ingredients of an e-cig, you may get some brown spots.

Obviously we're all for e-cigs here, but for that reason it's important to always seek a more scientific way of making our case.

I wonder how one could perform a truly scientifically convincing experiment. It will be done sooner or later.

[BigJimW]

Originally Posted by NPerez

Ingredients of cigarettes: Combusted
vs
Ingredients of e-cigs: not combusted

I think that if you were to vape the ingredients of an analog, you may not get any brown spots at all, but it would still be pretty dangerous.

In the same vein, if you were to combust the ingredients of an e-cig, you may get some brown spots.

Obviously we're all for e-cigs here, but for that reason it's important to always seek a more scientific way of making our case.

I wonder how one could perform a truly scientifically convincing experiment. It will be done sooner or later.

From my understanding, New Zealand was the only country to do a scientific study of the contents of electronic cigarettes:

http://www.healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartr...t30-Oct-08.pdf

One of the few countries not into the ban e-cig orgy.

Here is an interesting part about PG in this report. In Atlanta, a study of PG with the effects of children was conducted. They vaporized PG in some wards and not others, and got this result:

Method. Six wards of the Children’s Seashore House in Atlanta containing 105 bedfast
children aged 3 to 15 years were divided into 3 control and 3 undergoing vaporization for
3 week periods with 2 to 3 days between, before the control wards become vaporized, and
the vaporized wards became controls. This rotation continued for 7 months. The PG was
heated to vaporize it, but not above 80 degrees C, and vaporization continuously
maintained a concentration of 0.069 mg per liter. (0.07 ppm)

Results. No ill effects were reported. In the first year, 100 infections occurred in control
wards without PG, and 5 in wards with PG vaporization, with rates of 0.18 per week and 0.09 per week respectively. Most of the upper respiratory infections in control wards
were common colds, suggesting the PG is also virucidal.

Interesting. Only 5 infections in the wards vaporized with PG, and 100 infections without PG vaporization. And also the fact that PG is virucial, which stopped butt cold spreads of the common cold in the wards vaporized with PG, this tells me that not only will we have decreased our cancer chances, but also decreasing the chances of getting the common cold!

Unfortunately, the USA isn't buying something studied in their own country simply because it was used as an example in a New Zealand scientific study. We landed on the moon, and you didn't so you MUST be stupid if it's not studied on our self rightious soil.

[BigJimW]

Hit the 1100 views. But my video counters stuck. The real video view count is over 2,000. Typical YouTube for freezing videos counts.

And accrording to the records, this video is now linked to 10 sites.

Not bad. Must have been the cowboy hat.