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Old 09-20-2008, 01:02 AM   #11
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well if they want to ban it then surely they are going to need some sort of medical/lab tests to give reason to the ban , well on health and safety grounds anyway, which is why the current smoking ban is in place.

If these test's are carried out by government agencies and found that it is harmfull , then i guess thats what we would all want to know.
On the other hand if e-smoking is found not to be harmfull then that'll make us all much happier.

I think it's a win ..win situation.
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:42 AM   #12
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And if its found to be harmful, because they say it is, regardless of a report? (because reports/tests can be read and twisted, and biased anyway you want them to read)
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...and they will twist it. They don't have our interests at heart - they only see their mega-profits gliding out into vapour.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:36 AM   #14
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deja vu... same history in Holland last year... nothing to worry about
45000 panic postings for nothing, result today: we're still vaping away
Just chill folks
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:07 PM   #15
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Ludo I'm hoping you are right. If you are not I will move to Holland -LOL!
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:16 PM   #16
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deja vu... same history in Holland last year... nothing to worry about
45000 panic postings for nothing, result today: we're still vaping away
Just chill folks
yes just keep using the things whatever u call them.. at present we have the upper hand..

the smoking connection has to be maintained cos the devices are aimed at "smokers".. but according to UK law using one isnt "smoking".. in the end they will develop a name all of their won.. i refer to them as e smoking devices.. not a good name but "vaping" sounds too silly to me.. he he

but no matter what they are called as long as they continue to look like tobacco products the "smoking" connection will still be made.. but legally it isnt smoking.. at least not where i live..

to legally ban smoking first they had to legally define it.. they will have to do the same with e gigs.. their legal definition of smoking excludes our e cigs.. this suits us..

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Well, I must admit the 3,4-Dihydro Cumarin scares me.
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I feel like we have the testing partially done based simply on the studies done on nico inhaler and fog machines....Ok, this may sound insane but I think it holds logic- and my apologies if someone has already discussed it, Im a newb. I have been researching fog machines and studies done on people who are exposed to them often. The contents of a lot of fog juice: water and glycol, or water/glycerin. Our e cigs are basically mini foggers, so I really think that my line of though isn't that far fetched....(the basic science and how they work seem to be exactly the same...)
So far I have debunked wiki, surprise they have it wrong whats new, and found another study that says it(the fog) can irritate your lungs- and throat- and another one that claims they found long term exposure can create "respiratory problems." (by this I have no idea what they mean yet) I'm tracking down my sources, to see if they are legit- but its very hard to wade thru the mass amount of feces you find on the internet. One study was funded by an actors protection agency because they believe their actors can get sick from it and now limit the amount and type they can be exposed to. I find bias and agenda in that study. Nothing I have read has scarred me- nothing I have read is even close to putting 69 carcinogens in my lungs with the perfectly legal & deadly traditional tabacco cigarette. I whole heartly feel that my 901 is safer and I feel strongly about the threat of losing it. Like, want. to. panic. just thinking about having to smoke again if they ban these.
I think I might be slightly obsessed?
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