"freezing" juice?

[Kent C]

LOL--Angl--I know the feeling. I have bottles all over the place of flavors that do not make the grade or are just to sweet or too weak. Finding the Holy Grail for me has been difficult to sat the least. But all these flavors that I do not like, I may learn to like real quick if the ban hammer comes down. --LOL

Sun

Same here... I'm thinking with a ban... they're not That bad.... lol

[emus]

One data point:

Stored JC PG 24mg Artic Mint half full bottle in the fridge for 4 months.
Allowed it to warm to room temp before test.
Opacity=100% clear
Mint Flavor=aprox 30% of original
Power=aprox 50% of my nuvape 24mg
Taste=Fine

[SharonLM]

One data point:

Stored JC PG 24mg Artic Mint half full bottle in the fridge for 4 months.
Allowed it to warm to room temp before test.
Opacity=100% clear
Mint Flavor=aprox 30% of original
Power=aprox 50% of my nuvape 24mg
Taste=Fine

Now that's interesting. I sure don't like the 50% power. The flavor I can live with, but not the power. Yikes.

[emus]

I have been vaping the 50% power JC all day.

I can not verify the original JC 24mg was as powerful as nuvape 24mg.

I am pretty sure the JC lost much power.

I stored the JC in a half full container in the ref for 4 months; maybe the air cap oxidized the nicotine?

[LIBERTEDEFUMER]

i keep my juice in a very cold fridge i love it seems to taste better

Really ,
Think i test that
Good idea

[emus]

Is anyone kind enough to give me an undeserved executive summary?
How many had success with freezing their eliquid juice?
Was the freezing point of juice established?
I have been vaping my 4 month old ref stored JC all day and am disappointed with the strength.

[kinabaloo]

I have been thinking over this topic and while I still believe that refridgerating is a good idea, there is a precaution to bear in mind.

Chemically, there is no reason to think that any changes could occur and the colder temperature would slow both oxidation and microbial activity.

This applies to freezing also. Even super-complex molecules such as DNA can survive thousands of years in freezing temperatures.

There is, however, a precaution. This precaution applies no matter whether storage is in the fridge or not. And it is this:

Spoilage can occur through oxidation and microbial activity. To protect against oxidation, store without air inside the container and make sure the seal is air-tight. Glass and ceramic containers are to be preferred for long-term storage as plastic is very slightly air-permeable.

Microbial spoilage is by far the most likely reason for juice spoilage occuring in a sealed container. As far as we know, juice (with a major component being PG at least) is inherently anti-microbial; this might well not be the case with VG based juices. However, there is a potential scenario that could allow microbial growth - in any air space above the liquid, where water, evaporated from the juice or in the air, can condense on the inner container surface and provide a breeding ground; water preferentially evaporates as it has a lower boiling point than PG or VG.

So when storing long term it is wise to exclude all air. More to eliminate the possibility of microbial activity in condensation than oxidation from the air.

[stevo_tdo]

Is anyone kind enough to give me an undeserved executive summary?
How many had success with freezing their eliquid juice?
Was the freezing point of juice established?
I have been vaping my 4 month old ref stored JC all day and am disappointed with the strength.

This table shows the freezing point of pg and vg http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/fr...ds-d_1261.html

The first table at
Propylene Glycol based Heat-Transfer Fluids


or http://www.ketemalp.com/pdfs/glycol_...oint_table.pdf
gives an example of freezing temperatures in relation to water and pg mixed. I'm sorry it only goes to 60% though

[nick76]

I keep my eliquids in a small cooler container in my closet just to keep them not being warm. still don't know if this work?

[emus]

This table shows the freezing point of pg and vg Freezing Points Common Liquids

The first table at
Propylene Glycol based Heat-Transfer Fluids


or http://www.ketemalp.com/pdfs/glycol_...oint_table.pdf
gives an example of freezing temperatures in relation to water and pg mixed. I'm sorry it only goes to 60% though

Thanks.

My freezer is currently 5F. Based in the chart a PG:H2O solution with more than 33% PG will not freeze at 5F. I have not researched nicotine FP.

I just put some JC and nuvape tn the freezer for a short term test.