"freezing" juice?

[chad]

Originally Posted by SharonLM

In the mean-time I've taken all my liquid out of the refrigerator and it's now in a box in a dark corner in the coolest (which isn't very cool) room in the house.

I'd also put it on the floor of that room. Heat rises and all - might cut a few degrees off if stored on the floor. Just my obvious and tiny contribution to the thread (my place is usually over 80°F in the summer as well - and I have no basement).

[dedmonwakin]

I'd think putting it in the fridge would be a bad idea. Condensation will likely ruin your liquid. Condensation created in your product is a result of chemical separation, when the liquid becomes cooler than the outside temperature, droplets form on the inner walls. Eventually, in time this will degrade the life of your product by taste.

Unlike the practice of storing cigars, where it should be in a humidity controlled environment.

Our product is liquid and our job is to prevent it from rapid temperature change, to minimize the alteration of it.

Condensation is one of the contributors to food/product expiration.

It shouldn't matter how hot your home or apartment is as long as you control any rapid temperature of your product. Putting the bottles in a cooler (with cheese cloth to prevent moisture with in the cooler) will help control the rapid fluctuation of temperature and prevent condensation with in. (for those who are fortunate enough to have all four seasons.)

But, this is just my opinion. I just reversed my practice of storing my Cigars.

[nitewriter]

I've been keeping mine in a humidity controlled drawer in the fridge, usually meant for veggies. I've kept it set at 0 humidity. I wonder if this makes any difference?

I'm in the same boat as you Sharon. I've got over 2000 mls. So please let me know what Wayne says if/when he replies.

Thanks all!

[Sun Vaporer]

Originally Posted by SharonLM

Again, thank you Sun. I just wrote Wayne at Heaven's gifts. I figured if anyone knew he "might". I explained the temperatures here in Georgia and I explained what you said (no names given) happened to you. I then asked him if he has any experience storing e-liquid LONG TERM and I stressed long term. It'll be interesting to see what he says.

In the mean-time I've taken all my liquid out of the refrigerator and it's now in a box in a dark corner in the coolest (which isn't very cool) room in the house. I may not even go by what Wayne writes (if he does). I trust you on what you've reported Sun and I'm not willing to take that chance! I have almost 1,500ml's of the stuff!

The PG MSDS states that the the following:

Storage and Handling Practice: Store only in approved containers. Keep away from any incompatible materials or conditions. Store in a dry ventilated area at a temperature of 15°C to 30°C (59°F to 86°F). Protect from light.

Since I had put it on the Fridge (which is 40 degrees--19 degrees lower then the MSDS states---That is why I lost it. So much for the Fridge for me.

Sun

[MidnighToker]

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

The PG MSDS states that the the following:

Storage and Handling Practice: Store only in approved containers. Keep away from any incompatible materials or conditions. Store in a dry ventilated area at a temperature of 15°C to 30°C (59°F to 86°F). Protect from light.

Thanks so much for digging that up Sun. In that flash of genius that I had, I never thought to simply look up the MSDS... It's kinda better this way cuz now all these others know now too.

Now, does anyone know where I can rent out some cabinet space? Will the Mrs. REALLY notice the missing China that we've only used 3-4 times in the last 12 years?

[SharonLM]

You guys are all great! Thanks Chad, that's a good point, one I hadn't thought of.

Dedmonwakin, thank you!!

Sun, you're a life saver so to speak, or at least an e-liquid saver! I am so glad I read this forum. I usually come here many times a day and always click on "Today's Posts" to see what is happening and any new ideas. I am so glad I do.

Nitewriter, I'll be sure to let you know, but I have a feeling our guys know more about storing than maybe Wayne does. I think his product probably leaves the warehouse long before it has a chance to go rancid. Maybe not, but either way I'll let you know if he replies.

[Kent C]

I know that with wine, it isn't so much the temperature - although the ideal cellar/wine closet temp is 57 - but whether there are big swings in temperature - which isn't good. Not that storing in 90 degree heat would be any good for wine even if it was constant. But if you have a place (cool, dark, dry) that ranges from say mid 50's to 80 but didn't go from 55 to 80 in a day or visa versa, but would gradually go from one to the other over seasonal changes, then you should be good. Unlike juice, wine requires some humidity because of the cork so it doesn't' dry out.

[tikva]

Thanks guys for all the info!

Mine is in the bottom of the cubbard, which is just a few inches off the floor, because that's the first thing I thought of---heat rises!

I'm still nervous about it though. I have ~1 litre...


Sharon, I'd still like to hear what Wayne says.......just curious.

[SharonLM]

Originally Posted by tikva

Thanks guys for all the info!

Mine is in the bottom of the cubbard, which is just a few inches off the floor, because that's the first thing I thought of---heat rises!

I'm still nervous about it though. I have ~1 litre...


Sharon, I'd still like to hear what Wayne says.......just curious.

I'm curious too, and it might be interesting, but either way mine is staying out of the fridge!

[quovadis]

well i cant keep it in the fridge, because i'd be in the fridge every 3 minutes to fill my cart up.
Could turn the air con up in my office and turn the lights out?