"freezing" juice?

[VaporPhreak]

I had a bit of an idea... if you had a mini-fridge and set the thermostat in it as high as it would go (making it a warmer temp not cooler) would it be at an acceptable temp for the PG? Does anyone have a mini-fridge that they are not using or could keep empty for a few days? If so set it as high as it will go, put in a thermometer and check in after a couple days to see what the temp is. If its around say 65 degrees than we may be on to something. Anyone out there who can test?

[SharonLM]

well i cant keep it in the fridge, because i'd be in the fridge every 3 minutes to fill my cart up.
Could turn the air con up in my office and turn the lights out?

If you do that you'll need to get one heck of an LED light on your PV so you could see what you're doing..

[menthollight]

Eastmall's label says, "Keep in a cool, dark place or in the refrigerator for extended life; expires 27 months from date of purchase." It also shows an expiration date that's 24 months from the production date, so that "27 months from date of purchase" doesn't make sense to me.

I believe Eastmall sells Dekang/Boge liquid, and Boge's website says the same about refrigeration at bogetech--Elektronische sigaret|e-Zigaretten|e-sigarette|Elettronica di sigarette|e-Zigarren|e-cigaret|elektrische Zigarette|elektronische Zigarette|ruyan|Smoking Liquid

There is no cool place or anywhere that doesn't fluctuate in temperature in my home this time of year. The last few days have ranged from the high 60s to the low 90s, and it will likely hit the high 90s and low 100s in the coming weeks.

So I keep my factory sealed liquids (from a variety of vendors) in an airtight container in the refrigerator, and it's been almost four months now with no problem. I don't refrigerate the open bottles I'm vaping from, and when I take a new bottle out of the fridge I let it come to room temperature and shake before using.

I would be devastated if I lost all my liquid like Sun did, but has anyone else had that problem? Anyone else refrigerate without a problem?

[kinabaloo]

No personal experience, but don't see why a fridge would be bad. Condensation occurs when there is a temperature difference (or change of temperature). Being damp (assuming a fridge can be) should also make no difference given that the juice is in a sealed container.

Food goes in the fridge because it lasts longer. I'm not convinced by the fridge is bad idea (but not completely certain).

If can't avoid a wide change in temp from day to night, fridge might be better.

But the most important factors are: air tight (and no air in the container). Divide larger containers to smaller ones as use, filling to the brim, and caefully, not churning it up with air). And out of daylight.

Oxygen and UV light do the damage.

Glass is better for long term storage than plastic (don't try freezing glass containers though).

[SharonLM]

Now I'm really confused. If the manufacturer recommends the refrigerator and you, menthollite have kept yours in the refrigerator for 4 months with no problems, what to do?

I think today I'm going to write a number of different suppliers and see what they have to say.

I'm really glad this topic came up so we can discover what is best.

ETA: I just wrote 6 (making it 7 with the inquiry I sent yesterday) companies with our question. Will report back when I get the answers.

[tikva]

Thanks Sharon, that will be interesting to hear the replies from the manufacturers.

I wish there was a poll on this questions. I'd like to know how many people keep their liquids in a fridge, how many don't, what the temp/humidity conditions are that the liquids are stored in, and who has had problems and who has not.

I keep hearing about people, like menthollite, who do refridgerate, and have had no problems.

Again, just curious....

Very curious.....

[kinabaloo]

Now I'm really confused. If the manufacturer recommends the refrigerator and you, menthollite have kept yours in the refrigerator for 4 months with no problems, what to do?

I think today I'm going to write a number of different suppliers and see what they have to say.

I'm really glad this topic came up so we can discover what is best.

ETA: I just wrote 6 (making it 7 with the inquiry I sent yesterday) companies with our question. Will report back when I get the answers.

Best thing to do is store in different places, if more than one container.

Don't open to divide up until you need to use some of the contents.

The enemies are air (oxygen > oxidation) and light (daylight/UV > decomposition of the nicotine).

A lower temp. slows the oxidation rate; shouldn't be a big factor if there's very very little air in the container and it is air-tight. Think tinned food: no air and air tight; no fridge needed.

Two other ways something can degrade: bio-induced degradation (mold, bacteria) and inherent slow decomposition or reaction of constituents tendency (not known, afaik, but possible, very slow though and would be slowed further by keeping cool). Think egg: need not go in fridge, but will noticeably degrade after 2 or 3 weeks even though sealed (there will be some bacteria inside, and proteins also decompose over time).

[MidnighToker]

I wish there was a poll on this questions. I'd like to know how many people keep their liquids in a fridge, how many don't, what the temp/humidity conditions are that the liquids are stored in, and who has had problems and who has not.

Just went back and tried to edit to add a poll, but no dice.

[SharonLM]

Just went back and tried to edit to add a poll, but no dice.

If a poll is developed on a different thread, please be sure it's for people who have stored liquid for more than 3 or 4 months. Any less than that we'll have people who have had liquid for only a few weeks chiming in and we still won't know where we are with this.

Still waiting for answers from suppliers. But it's Sunday and I think a lot of them won't answer until tomorrow.

[daniel2828]

When suppliers note to store something in a cool, dry place while providing no specific information, then it's pretty much the same as "avoid heat or direct sunlight." So I'd be willing to bet anywhere from 65 deg. to 72 deg. is safe for storage up to a year or so. If one lives in a warm environment and does not have air conditioning, or if you're stock-piling loads of juice, then I agree with VaporPhreak about the dorm fridge.