Panic buying and the FDA ban. My take. - Page 3 - E-Cigarette Forum

eric · 07-23-2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Satyr

Please accept my apology. It just bugs the hell out of me when people say they'd rather leave than deal with a problem. Sometimes it sets me off a bit. I guess you just caught me in a moment. I meant no harm. I'm gald to hear you are doing your part.

I'm fed up with the Fed. I can't do anything but what I am doing. If it doesn't work, I'll move elsewhere and pay taxes. Then you can bet your bottom dollar I'll continue emailing my Senators and Rep.

I hate to speak of Revolution because of the turmoil that would ensue, but damn we need one.

EDIT: Punctuation

dedmonwakin · 07-23-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Satyr

I actually live in Franklin Park (just south of O'Hare). I have been hearing about this all day on AM780. Again, this all has to do with money. They save money by not jailing you and putting you through the system and make money by having you pay a simple ($200) fine.

Are you sure that this extends to a Federal offense? Not so sure if it's that simple, when dealing with illegal importation of items through federal mail services. I'm no lawyer, but some acquaintances of mine who received steroids, didn't get any slap on the hand.

Elendil · 07-23-2009, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dedmonwakin

Are you sure that this extends to a Federal offense? Not so sure if it's that simple, when dealing with illegal importation of items through federal mail services. I'm no lawyer, but some acquaintances of mine who received steroids, didn't get any slap on the hand.

I think you may be referring to 2 different issues. I just went OT on the ......... issue and Satyr was responding to that..........

dedmonwakin · 07-23-2009, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Elendil

I think you may be referring to 2 different issues. I just went OT on the ......... issue and Satyr was responding to that..........

Oh, my bad

chuckie · 07-23-2009, 05:02 AM

Antie Em,Antie Em,It's a twister! It's a twister (wizard of Oz 1936)

daniel2828 · 07-23-2009, 05:14 AM

It's not just about the ban, Big Jim. The FDA used all the scare words and phrases in their public statement. "Toxins, carcinogens, selling to youths," etc. Already, a couple of people who never said word one to me about my vaping have gone, "Oh, did you hear those things are just as dangerous for you as real cigarettes?" And soon it will be, "Don't vape that poison around me." The FDA is counting on the stupidity of the public. Their statement was not intended for our benefit or education, but to mislead the public with anecdotal information. People who once congratulated us for taking a step in the right direction by getting off analogs will now be viewing us with the same contempt and/or pity that they felt when we were smokers. Bans in public places will follow and e-cig users will once again be discriminated against, no matter when or if a ban ever goes through.

Sun Vaporer · 07-23-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel2828

It's not just about the ban, Big Jim. The FDA used all the scare words and phrases in their public statement. "Toxins, carcinogens, selling to youths," etc. Already, a couple of people who never said word one to me about my vaping have gone, "Oh, did you hear those things are just as dangerous for you as real cigarettes?" And soon it will be, "Don't vape that poison around me." The FDA is counting on the stupidity of the public. Their statement was not intended for our benefit or education, but to mislead the public with anecdotal information. People who once congratulated us for taking a step in the right direction by getting off analogs will now be viewing us with the same contempt and/or pity that they felt when we were smokers. Bans in public places will follow and e-cig users will once again be discriminated against, no matter when or if a ban ever goes through.

Daniel--I give this the "Post of the Day" Award---best one yet for sure IMO--------

Sun

Tone · 07-23-2009, 05:19 AM

There are alot of ways the FDA can get to the China ordering.
go after the The credit card services and they will no longer process e-cig transactions (you cant buy them if you cant pay for them)
Go after the Shipping companies.
Make it a felony, I don't see many people willing to become felons to feed their habit.
I'm not sure that it will be as easy as everyone thinks to get this stuff from china If/when a ban is put in place...

Japeli · 07-23-2009, 07:02 AM

The only thing we have to fear is paying $100 for a 30 ML bottle of juice. They're just upset because they aren't getting their cut. Yet... They'll figure it out. Same as everything else. Follow the $.

GrimmGreen · 07-23-2009, 07:09 AM

the first thing we need it a bunch of Guy Fawkes masks....

07-23-2009, 05:02 AM	#25
chuckie Senior Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: miami fl USA Posts: 218 Tweet this post!	Ha...Ha....Ha HaHa..... Antie Em,Antie Em,It's a twister! It's a twister (wizard of Oz 1936) __________________ Chuck

07-23-2009, 05:14 AM	#26
daniel2828 Full Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 92	It's not just about the ban, Big Jim. The FDA used all the scare words and phrases in their public statement. "Toxins, carcinogens, selling to youths," etc. Already, a couple of people who never said word one to me about my vaping have gone, "Oh, did you hear those things are just as dangerous for you as real cigarettes?" And soon it will be, "Don't vape that poison around me." The FDA is counting on the stupidity of the public. Their statement was not intended for our benefit or education, but to mislead the public with anecdotal information. People who once congratulated us for taking a step in the right direction by getting off analogs will now be viewing us with the same contempt and/or pity that they felt when we were smokers. Bans in public places will follow and e-cig users will once again be discriminated against, no matter when or if a ban ever goes through. __________________

07-23-2009, 05:19 AM	#28
Tone Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: LI NY Posts: 636	There are alot of ways the FDA can get to the China ordering. go after the The credit card services and they will no longer process e-cig transactions (you cant buy them if you cant pay for them) Go after the Shipping companies. Make it a felony, I don't see many people willing to become felons to feed their habit. I'm not sure that it will be as easy as everyone thinks to get this stuff from china If/when a ban is put in place... __________________ Last edited by Tone; 07-23-2009 at 05:20 AM. Reason: spelling

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GrimmGreen Ultra Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Capital of Nevada Posts: 1,185 Blog Entries: 18	the first thing we need it a bunch of Guy Fawkes masks.... __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/GrimmGreen

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07-23-2009, 07:02 AM	#29
Japeli Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4	The only thing we have to fear is paying $100 for a 30 ML bottle of juice. They're just upset because they aren't getting their cut. Yet... They'll figure it out. Same as everything else. Follow the $.