New Vapors: Read this before wasting your money on Cartomizers

[MickeyRat]

I didn't think Mickey would ever be assimilated.

I'm sorry dude.

I went to 901s and none of the other bottom feeders would take an adapter. I actually picked up a VV Woodvil Saturday.

[bsidb]

Just like all cartomizors are not the same nor are clearomizors ce2, vision,clear O mizor,mad vapes,etc, are not the same, im sure as Micro Cig with the MiT sticker are the only Ce2,clearomizor ultimate,i know the real thing and best at to promote happiness, my previous link shows them on the web at the best price i could find, sounds like any nay sayers did not buy these,those ce2's and dis like them

[Randy C]

Wow... Lot's of different opinions on this subject...

Please let me reiterate, I preempted my post with "It is my opinion". I respect all of your opinions, so please just try to tolerate my opinion if at all possible. Just passing on what I've learned to new vapors...And, let me be clear; I am talking about the Visions Ego LR Clearomizer only.

Oh... before I forget... TRACKER II- It's your money; I could care less about you and/or how you spend your money.

I can't speak to cracking issues because I haven't experienced any on my Visions Ego LR Clearomizer yet. I can tell you than most other issues discussed in this thread can be resolved with with a slight bit of mechanical ability and by keeping an open mind.

Here's an example. My co-worker tried the Visions Clearomizer today and told me they suck. He told me that before it totally failed, the flavor was muted. He went on to say that "then the thing just died for no reason". I took a look and here is what I found- the flavor was muted because he had his drip tip cranked down so hard that it crimped the wick; not allowing juice to make it's way to the atty. And guess what? His juice was filled to the very brim, which flooded the atty. I handed him a fresh clearomizer, filled and primed it properly, then GENTLY turned the drip tip down until it just barely contacted the rubber cap. He fired it up and was amazed! From junk to amazing- just by keeping an open mind and by taking direction.

I've read that cracking issues may have been resolved on these things, but the jury is out for the time being. In the mean while, if you are experiencing issues with the Visions clearomizer (other than cracks), here are my recommendations to resolve, and here is what I do:

I never fill past 1.4 ml's; never run below .7 ml's (to prevent flooding/dry burn)
I fill (never down the center hole), then lay it horizontally for 10 minutes to prime the wick
I try to leave it laying horizontally when ever I can, so the wick doesn't get dry
I keep the atomizer centered in the unit- When refilling, I reposition if necessary
I do not over-tighten the screw-in drip dip; doing so will crimp the wick; restricting it's wicking properties
I shake often- the clearomizer has a tendency to burn off lighter particles of juice, leaving heavy particles behind. Some people complain the taste goes down-hill as the tank empties. Shaking occasionally eliminates this for me
After every two tanks or so, I simply rinse it out with cold water, shake it out, refill, and vape- it takes a few minutes for the fresh juice to displace the water in the wick- but it's not a big deal.

Lastly, I didn't quit smoking cigarettes to get sick. I don't like the idea of inhaling burnt poly filler material, but feel free to do so if you like. I don't claim to be a health expert, but vaporized plastic coating the lining of my lungs doesn't sound like a "heathy option" for me.

God bless and good night

[Strigoi]

It seems to me that the trend is that people who are new here/to vaping like them and those that have been doing this for awhile don't.

I've never tried them, but I'll stick with cartos. I've done enough reading on them and have decided I don't want to mess with them. I also don't think that saying people are wasting their money on cartos is right. Just because something works for you doesn't mean that the next person is going to feel the same.

It's like if I told all the new people they're wasting their money by not buying mods (even if it's a a KGO, E-Power, etc...) for their first PV. I think mods are great and it eliminates wasting money on upgrading, but they're not right for everyone in the beginning. I wish I bought a mod at first, but I'm sure a lot of people don't feel that way and needed to transition into this.

Another example is the Kanger horizontal coil cartos. A friend of mine bought some and loved them. I used one for a day and hated it. It might have been the liquid I was using, but it was junk IMO.

Lastly, I didn't quit smoking cigarettes to get sick. I don't like the idea of inhaling burnt poly filler material, but feel free to do so if you like. I don't claim to be a health expert, but vaporized plastic coating the lining of my lungs doesn't sound like a "heathy option" for me.

If you keep burning the poly fill you don't really know what you're doing with cartos. I use cartos 95% of the time and rarely get any burnt taste. That usually only happens when I'm drunk and paying no attention to what's going on with my e-cig.

[Adam the Aussie]

Lastly, I didn't quit smoking cigarettes to get sick. I don't like the idea of inhaling burnt poly filler material, but feel free to do so if you like. I don't claim to be a health expert, but vaporized plastic coating the lining of my lungs doesn't sound like a "heathy option" for me.

Just by keeping an open mind and taking some direction, I can fix your cartomizer problems for you:
1. Keep them wet.
2. See number 1.

[Robertogee]

I don't know. Been vaping 2.5 years. Carts. WOW carts from V4L my faves. Went with their 808 SC 6ml tank on a Titan XL manual. Loved it. THEN, from Northwest Vapors, the kGo 1100 mAh and from Mountain Vapor, the E-Turbo LR clearomizers. Unbelievable!

(Incidentally, Mountain Vapor included a sample bottle of their Bacconut 18 ml. I long ago gave up trying to find a tobacco flavor I liked. Have stuck with Tasty Vapor's Cafe Machiatto for 1-2 years. Love it. But the Bacconut? Vaped it for half a day, then ordered a 30 ml bottle.)

Haven't had any leaks or cracking with the E-Turbos. No burnt taste. In fact, same great taste and great vapor production from filled to nearly empty. Ordered more E-Turbos (from Mountain Vapor). I've only cleaned one of the E-Turbos, not that it needed it. But I wanted to see how effective cleaning was. Distilled water. Ultrasound. Dry burned 2-3 times, 5 secs on, 5 secs off. Distilled water and ultrasound again (thinking maybe to get any ash out of the atomizer). Shook off. Dry burned. Filled. Vaped. After a few hits, the e-juice replaced the leftover water, as Randy C noted.

E-Turbo performed same as before. I.e., like new.

Don't know if the E-Turbos will deliver what's claimed -- around 100 refills. I vape about 3 ml / day. That's 33 days. $0.21 / day.

But so far, for me, this rig is e-cig nirvana.

The Vivi Novas look VERY interesting (see above) too. I'll be trying those soon.

[Murdock Ruml]

Genisis is the way to go.

[ambientech]

Genisis is the way to go.

While I agree with you that genesis is the way to go it isn't for anyone who think they dont like "fiddly stuff".

IMO dripping an atty is the least fiddly of any of them. Some may think I am out of my mind but I am telling it the way I see it. I drip a few drops and get 5 or so amazing hits full of flavor and vapor then sit my PV down. Sometimes it wasn't enough so I drip a few more drops and get 5 or so amazing hits again. I get no leaking and no dry hits and no poly taste. How in the heck is this more work than lighting a cig or trying to fill a carto or making a new coil on a genesis? I tried carto's and I spent more time filling them and subsequently dripping them as they go dry throughout the day. Yes a carto tank takes care of the juice feed but it can't do anything for the lackluster performance you get from a carto. So I have genesis atty's and still enjoy dripping just as much.

[ByeByeCoffinNails]

For those using the sour juices that may cause cracking- try picking up the CE2's with a stainless steel tube. Yep, they are older models- but they work... and work... and keep on working!

[BHam]

Bam here love the posts I still like carts though just quick and easy for when I'm on the go.