E-Liquid. Are you getting what you pay for ?

[dc2k08]

thanks, i'll have a look at the cannons.

[Kimmiegrif]

but ned does your tongue turn black? that could be a problem.

[ApOsTle51]

I recieved an email from the retailer today here's an extract ( the important bit )

Thanks for raising this. Obviously we'll need to start checking the contents inside the boxes from now on. This is how they come supplied from the manufacturer.

Therefore, you are being short changed and so are we!!

So it seems it's a manufaturing error and not a weights and measures error from the retailer.
I just assumed the retailer bought in bulk and rebottled the liquid for sale.
Obviously that's not how it works.

But still , Check those bottles guys.

[jigtg]

nyoy and ruyan e liquid as taken over from printer ink ned as the most expensive liquid on the planet..

Ruyan e-liquid is actually cheaper than most e-liquids in bottles. 50 carts for $40 each holding around 1ml according to my calculations.
40/50=0.80000 per ml. JC which I consider cheap costs 20/30=0.66667 per ml.

I have an epsom c84 for which I bought 600ml dye ink for around £20 and chip resetter. Well actually they accidently sent me non-dye ink first so I have around 1.2 liters of ink here... it probably goes old before I use it all.

[trog100]

they have dropped in price if so.. try five dollars per cart or twenty five dollars for five carts each containing 1 ml.. its the most expensive ones i have come across..

i am also talking recommend retail proper prices not some year old end of line ebay stuff which i am sure is what u are quoting..

over 22.000 per imperial gallon.. sold in little plastic tubs..

real prices as i say.. not year old end line ebay stock.. be real dude..

trog

[Kate]

nope, but i will be checking now, naming and shaming.

but at least we dont have micro-chips in our carts that render them useless and un-refillable once the liquid has been used ala certain ink cartridges. LEXMARK im talking to you

It's funny you should say that, this is what the Janty USA site says:

"WARRANTY: Atomizers and swiches come with a 6 month warranty an dbatteries with a 3 month warranty when used strictly in accordance with the guidelines in the manuals.
Please let us know within the first 3 days of usage if you find any problem.

Exceptions:
Damaged goods or non or bad functioning goods, cloaked atomizers due to clients misusage, bad handling or the usage of other than original JANTY cartridges, liquids or other items in combination with JANTY items are excluded from warranty. All returned items are checked at the moment of return at our warehouse. User data from the micro chips will be verified. The microchips inside the switches, batteries or USB compartments register abnormalities, density of liquid residues and abnormal high "peaks" from wrong usage."

[Soot]

Kate - I can't find this advice on the Janty EU site - does this only apply to the US site? I'm awaiting delivery of a Janty Classic (from the EU) and will be sending it back if this change applies.

I guess I should send this question to Janty - I will and I'll post their reply - if I get one.

[Kate]

I couldn't find it on the European site either. If you do find out anything I'd be interested in hearing about it.

This is an outrageous clause in Janty's contract and they didn't even bother informing us about it. I asked Ludo about this very issue not long ago and he implied that their customers were not forced to buy their juice.

I wouldn't buy Janty hardware now if I was bound by this exclusion on the warranty, it's totally unreasonable. They charge enough for the hardware without tying us into an unfair contract for consumables.

[trog100]

its perhaps outside EU law..

anyway kate thats two down.. more to go.. dig a bit deeper or ask the direct question to any other long guarantee sellers..

can i use any e liquid in your device.. ???

i am sure the answer will be no.. which is kinda what i tried to tell u some time back.. it will come under misuse of the device even it it isnt cleary stated..

its also quite reasonable... any liquid could well wreck the device.. i seem to recall a thread about a certain liquid doing just that..

big money is not made by selling the hardware its made by selling the consumables.. the nice guarantee is a simple device to make sure some do..

the consumables carry a big mark up.. and we all use lots of em..

trog

[Kate]

Don't be rubbing your hands together too quickly Trog, Janty have now removed that exceptions clause. Ludo repeated that they would prefer us to use their eliquid but didn't say we had to. So back to one, Ruyan is the only company I know of that requires you to use their juice.

I think you might be right about it being against EU law, folks in the States have much less consumer protection against unfair contracts. North Americans seem resigned to being dictated to over consumer goods, hopefully their regulators will step in and request proof of safety for compulsory eliquids.

There's money to be made in both hardware and juice I think. Tying them together is not justifiable any more than a car manufacturer insisting we use a certain brand of petrol.