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dawghouse · 08-14-2009, 07:29 PM

I love wintergreen. I thought it would be a great idea to cut some of the 24mg JC Tennessee Cured I had left down to 18mg with some VG, add a little LorAnns wintergreen to the mix and I'd have a delightful mixture.

Well, wintergreen is not like adding a little strawberry. It has, and I'm sure this is true for everything in the mint family, the ability to take over. My first impression, "Wow, now that's some wintergreen!" By the time I got through one cart of the mixture...UGH! This could turn me off wintergreen forever! Totally my fault. I added about the same amount I would've added of coffee or a dozen other favors, however, the wintergreen has pretty much wiped out every other flavor in the mixture. Tried adding some chocolate...the wintergreen laughed at my silly attempt...it would not be deterred. I can't even imagine (nor shall I try) what this would be like direct dripped. I have now is something I can vape when I'm in the mood to be smacked in the head by a wintergreen mallet. I anticipate the remainder of this bottle will last me 40 years.

So...my lesson for today is...it is better to add a little, try it out, and if it's a bit weak you can always add a little more. Go the other direction and you do so at your own risk! So at least I learned something from this expensive experiment.

jennyhadadot · 08-14-2009, 07:36 PM

hahaha... picturing the wintergreen 'laughing'. How much flavoring do you usually use? Just ordered some for myself and was wondering how many drops per ml is needed. (don't give me the wintergreen recipe!)

dawghouse · 08-14-2009, 07:49 PM

Oh I'd be happy to share the recipe...you might not taste anything else for 3 days though.

I usually put on the order of a drop per ml or less...I usually experiment in a 3ml bottle to avoid exactly what I did and wasting a bunch of liquid, but I had about 10ml left in a 30ml bottle, so I added 5ml of VG and 10 drops of wintergreen...half of that would've been too much.

mattrox · 08-14-2009, 08:27 PM

I find that hilarious because yesterday I bought some flavorings from Michaels and wanted to see how well they worked. I like mint, so I grabbed the spearmint flavor and dripped it straight..

....yeah... not a good idea.. my whole mouth tingled for about an hour.. it was like I had just been to the dentist.. there was so much mint that I actually felt ill.. lol

Less is more? Something like that..

killdozerd11 · 08-14-2009, 08:50 PM

variance is a thing you are going to get when you do small batches of
any mixture because even the ingredient's you use vary from batch to batch.

So if you make your own juice this will happen and if you are buying your juice from a small maker the same thing happens it's just in bigger batches

You learn all about this reloading ammunition especially match ammo.
Because gun powder burn rates vary from lot to lot

yknotagain · 08-14-2009, 08:59 PM

Reminds me of the first time I dissolved some menthol crystals in Everclear. I just had to put a drop on my finger and taste it. Well, it was ALL I could taste for many hours.

Technobob · 08-14-2009, 09:50 PM

My method is to add one drop into a one dram bottle then taste it then add more if need but never more then one drop at a time. It has a lot to do with how good your taste buds are, if your like me with super taste buds a little goes a long way, I rarely use more then two drops per dram.

dawghouse · 08-14-2009, 10:18 PM

Lesson 2...write down your working formulation. Recreating from memory doesn't work so well when you can't remember what went into the mix or the proportions. Time to go out and buy a notebook. This is becoming a humbling experience.

Kent C · 08-14-2009, 11:01 PM

BTW, for some reason lorann's "lemonade" is as strong as the mints/menthols. English Toffee is a strong flavor as well. Lorann's butterscotch make almost anything taste better for butterscotch lovers. Too sweet? Add "Butter" flavoring.

dawghouse · 08-15-2009, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kent C

BTW, for some reason lorann's "lemonade" is as strong as the mints/menthols. English Toffee is a strong flavor as well. Lorann's butterscotch make almost anything taste better for butterscotch lovers. Too sweet? Add "Butter" flavoring.

Cool...got some butterscotch I haven't tried yet. Thanks!

08-14-2009, 07:29 PM	#1
dawghouse Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Clifton, VA, USA Posts: 81	Flavoring lesson learned I love wintergreen. I thought it would be a great idea to cut some of the 24mg JC Tennessee Cured I had left down to 18mg with some VG, add a little LorAnns wintergreen to the mix and I'd have a delightful mixture. Well, wintergreen is not like adding a little strawberry. It has, and I'm sure this is true for everything in the mint family, the ability to take over. My first impression, "Wow, now that's some wintergreen!" By the time I got through one cart of the mixture...UGH! This could turn me off wintergreen forever! Totally my fault. I added about the same amount I would've added of coffee or a dozen other favors, however, the wintergreen has pretty much wiped out every other flavor in the mixture. Tried adding some chocolate...the wintergreen laughed at my silly attempt...it would not be deterred. I can't even imagine (nor shall I try) what this would be like direct dripped. I have now is something I can vape when I'm in the mood to be smacked in the head by a wintergreen mallet. I anticipate the remainder of this bottle will last me 40 years. So...my lesson for today is...it is better to add a little, try it out, and if it's a bit weak you can always add a little more. Go the other direction and you do so at your own risk! So at least I learned something from this expensive experiment. __________________ DawgHouse

08-14-2009, 07:36 PM	#2
jennyhadadot Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 86	hahaha... picturing the wintergreen 'laughing'. How much flavoring do you usually use? Just ordered some for myself and was wondering how many drops per ml is needed. (don't give me the wintergreen recipe!) __________________

08-14-2009, 07:49 PM	#3
dawghouse Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Clifton, VA, USA Posts: 81	Oh I'd be happy to share the recipe...you might not taste anything else for 3 days though. I usually put on the order of a drop per ml or less...I usually experiment in a 3ml bottle to avoid exactly what I did and wasting a bunch of liquid, but I had about 10ml left in a 30ml bottle, so I added 5ml of VG and 10 drops of wintergreen...half of that would've been too much. __________________ DawgHouse

08-14-2009, 08:50 PM	#5
killdozerd11 What would SATAN do ??? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Peoples republic of California Posts: 120	variance's variance is a thing you are going to get when you do small batches of any mixture because even the ingredient's you use vary from batch to batch. So if you make your own juice this will happen and if you are buying your juice from a small maker the same thing happens it's just in bigger batches You learn all about this reloading ammunition especially match ammo. Because gun powder burn rates vary from lot to lot __________________ Backed my Catma over your Carma -oop's Bummer

08-14-2009, 08:59 PM	#6
yknotagain Super Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kenosha, WI Posts: 657	Reminds me of the first time I dissolved some menthol crystals in Everclear. I just had to put a drop on my finger and taste it. Well, it was ALL I could taste for many hours. __________________ After 41 years of 4-5 packs a day, First PV 04/30/09 last analog 05/18/09

08-14-2009, 08:27 PM	#4
mattrox Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 45	I find that hilarious because yesterday I bought some flavorings from Michaels and wanted to see how well they worked. I like mint, so I grabbed the spearmint flavor and dripped it straight.. ....yeah... not a good idea.. my whole mouth tingled for about an hour.. it was like I had just been to the dentist.. there was so much mint that I actually felt ill.. lol Less is more? Something like that..

08-14-2009, 09:50 PM	#7
Technobob Full Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Catharines, Ontario Posts: 102	My method is to add one drop into a one dram bottle then taste it then add more if need but never more then one drop at a time. It has a lot to do with how good your taste buds are, if your like me with super taste buds a little goes a long way, I rarely use more then two drops per dram. __________________

08-14-2009, 10:18 PM	#8
dawghouse Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Clifton, VA, USA Posts: 81	Lesson 2...write down your working formulation. Recreating from memory doesn't work so well when you can't remember what went into the mix or the proportions. Time to go out and buy a notebook. This is becoming a humbling experience. __________________ DawgHouse

08-14-2009, 11:01 PM	#9
Kent C Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NW Ohio US Posts: 2,638	BTW, for some reason lorann's "lemonade" is as strong as the mints/menthols. English Toffee is a strong flavor as well. Lorann's butterscotch make almost anything taste better for butterscotch lovers. Too sweet? Add "Butter" flavoring. __________________

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