Esmoking myths

[Kate]

Can we gather some esmoking myths/misinformation to debunk for newbies?

Here are some to start us off:

A cartridge lasts for the equivalent of 20/40 cigarettes

You can use your ecig anywhere

Esmoking is safe

[Bertrand]

- WHO provides any kind of recommendation for the product
- batteries last for a day before recharging
- it's remotely like smoking
- "tobacco" flavours have anything in common with the taste of tobacco
- there are a large number of manufacturers
- it's ready for the mainstream market
- atomizers and batteries have a reasonable lifetime with moderate use
- you can use it to wean off nicotine
- it is as satisfying as a proper cigarette
- the atomizer creates the "mist" using some technobabble mechanism, rather than just boiling the eliquid
- you get what you pay for
- you exhale only water vapour
- usual marketing nonsense of "Other" manufacturers using "chemicals" whereas "We" use "ingredients"
- there are 4000 known carcinogens in a cigarette (don't know why this one keeps getting repeated)
- manufacturers can "tell" if you use someone else's e-liquid (like they come from different factories anyhow)
- existence of quality control

[Kate]

Your warranty will be void if you don't use the sellers cartridges/eliquid (this only applies to Ruyan afaik)

[Tetsab]

OK, now I'm about to show my innocence: if it isn't water vapour, what is it we're exhaling?

Sorry if this has been answered dozens of times before but I'd seen this notion and had fallen hook, line and sinker for it. Worse, I've repeated it to other people outside in the real world.

Just been and checked a couple of suppliers' sites (both active in this forum) to check and here are the quotes:

"Only water vapour is produced no different to the vapour produced by a boiling kettle"
"A water-based vapour is released from the glycol by the atomiser to resemble smoke"

As I'm one of those people who always tells others not to believe everything they find on the Internet I'm feeling pretty foolish right now. Not a sensation I particularly enjoy.

[bribri]

There is some detailed cleaning process going on after every 1,500 hits.

There is a complex microprocessor in the unit.

You actually are inhaling less nicotine then when you were smoking analogs.

Its safe since its just food flavouring.

There is no smell.

You will save lots of money.


Its easy to clean.

X flavor tastes like x

"I will send it right out to you". =)

If it doesn't seem to be working, that could be because the device has an auto shutoff protection feature which shuts it off if you are inhaling too much nicotine.

We are all different manufacturers, we just all decided to spell the juice verginia and name them the same.

[Silver]

Originally Posted by Bertrand

- you can use it to wean off nicotine
- it is as satisfying as a proper cigarette

Ummmm, is it bad if I don't agree with these two ? Can I do that ?

I think it is possible to wean oneself off nicotine with the E-cigarette. I have read of others who have done so and now only vape Non nic carts, just to satisfy the hand to mouth habit/addiction.

In fact, my brother used E-cigarettes to completely quit smoking altogether. He used them for a couple of months and was able to slowly bring his nic usage down to zero. From there he said it was easy for him to quit the hand to mouth habit too, so it can be done !

Speaking for myself, I have managed to bring down my nic usage considerably, both compared to before I E-vaped and since I started E-vaping (or doesn't that count because I haven't quit the nic altoghether {yet} ?).

For me E-vaping is definitely as satisfying as smoking analogue cigarettes, otherwise I would never have been able to quit them altogether, even though I had not intention of doing so when I started E-vaping !

Aren't these statements dependant on the person as we are all different people who have different perceptions ?

Agree with the others though, great idea for a thread Kate !

Cheers,
Silver

[Kate]

Originally Posted by Tetsab

OK, now I'm about to show my innocence: if it isn't water vapour, what is it we're exhaling?

This is what the Ruyan research says:

"... the exhaled mist of the e-cigarette is composed of propylene glycol, and probably contains almost no nicotine; and no CO..."

http://healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport21-Oct-08.pdf


I agree with you Silver, those are two observations I was unsure about

[bribri]

All the joys of Smoking with "none of the problems". haha. Yeah, just lots of new different problems.

[Bertrand]

Originally Posted by Kate

This is what the Ruyan research says:

"... the exhaled mist of the e-cigarette is composed of propylene glycol, and probably contains almost no nicotine; and no CO..."

http://healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport21-Oct-08.pdf


I agree with you Silver, those are two observations I was unsure about

Yeah. Whenever I boil my kettle it smells like smoke machine. Try exhaling through your nose, and tell me that's just water vapour. More of the "patented e-cigarette marketing nonsense".

Actually, 'patent' sounds like another one...

[Soot]

I thought Bertand's & Bribri's lists pretty good but would remove "as satisfying as a proper cigarette", "you can use it to wean off nicotine" and "you will save lots of money" as myths - all are more points of view rather than myths.

In several ways I find the e-cig more satisfying than a proper cigarette - though the temptation still makes itself known. Can't figure out why - the real things smell bad, you need an ashtray, have to go outside and the smoke sticks to your hands and clothes. I wouldn't say the temptation returning makes the e-cig less satisfying. My one relapse was brief and I was soon back on the e-cig.

I agree with Silver's point on it being possible to use the e-cig to wean of nicotine. Many users don't want to use it that way - for those that do I can see no reason why it wouldn't work similarly to any nico inhaler.

The "saving money" issue is where things get out of hand - particularly for the gadget freak. I'm now in possession of 3 different setups (all with replacement batteries (3+) and atomisers (2+)). I also have enough juice and around 10 different flavours to last me to Easter - not counting the 150 or so cartridges!

Every time I tell myself "right - that's it!" a week or so passes and another purchase is made. I don't blame the e-cig though - it's my own fault for reading this forum!