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Papa Lazarou · 12-03-2008, 12:35 AM

Is methlone the same as methylone? I just couldn't find much information on methlone but plenty on methylone.. Methylone is closely related to MDMA (ecstacy)!

Bertrand · 12-03-2008, 12:37 AM

You can't do everything yourself. It's not like JC buy crude oil, put it through their refinery, fraction out the propene, break it into propylene oxide, hydrolyze it into propylene glycol and then purify it.

You could do what freesmoke do, though, and get it made up by a pharmacist. A lot of them won't want to touch it. They seem to be pretty cottoned on to the risks involved in distributing nicotine in small containers, and don't want to be responsible for the death of a small child. But I'm sure if you ask enough of them you could find one interested.

It would cost pennies to make, could be sold at a premium, and testing every batch may even be economically viable. You just need to test by the gallon PG and other ingredients separately rather than have 6 different strength x 20 = 120 different strength and flavour combinations.

Edit: had another thought. Another approach would be to just get one flavour at one concentration in bulk (whatever's most popular) and test that. If you get twenty litres of it at a time, mix it up in a large foodsafe tapped container, you only need to do one test. I don't know how much the testing costs, but you could explain why this particular liquid costs more than your others, and why it only comes in one flavour and strength.

ben30mc · 12-03-2008, 12:51 PM

Sorry to change the subject, but I can't start a thread yet.
I have just purchased a 901b and love it.
It seems that I will only be needing 2 cartridges a day, but I'm wondering if someone can give me a guide to the juice, and how it compares price wise with cartridges. Specifically does anybody know how much juice is in a cartridge to begin with, and what would the equivalent be in ml's of juice to 2 cartridges.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Mommyshann · 12-03-2008, 01:23 PM

Ben, a mini cartridge generally holds about .5ml of juice. So, 2 cartridges would equal about 1ml of juice. The average vaper uses 2ml a day. The pre-filled cartridges are about $1 each and e-liquid prices vary from seller to seller but are on average about $10 for a 10-15ml bottle which comes out to being twice the product for half the price or better. The juice can be dripped into your used cartridges that you have on hand. Hope that helped!

ApOsTle51 · 12-03-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pillbox38

It would be interesting to get a full recipe and see how its made, i know we get given lists of ingredients , but exact quantities and the methodologys arent known..I certainly would not know how to find out...Thats why i believe JC has done a great job manufacturing in house, something i want to replicate in time...I need a good chemist

pillbox's totally wicked e-liquid produced in the UK....!!!

Now that would really get my money and be worth every penny.

now c'mon Jason , dig that old chemistry set out from the back of the cupboard

ben30mc · 12-03-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mommyshann

Ben, a mini cartridge generally holds about .5ml of juice. So, 2 cartridges would equal about 1ml of juice. The average vaper uses 2ml a day. The pre-filled cartridges are about $1 each and e-liquid prices vary from seller to seller but are on average about $10 for a 10-15ml bottle which comes out to being twice the product for half the price or better. The juice can be dripped into your used cartridges that you have on hand. Hope that helped!

Excellent, Thanks so much!

This is going to work out nice for me.

Kate · 12-03-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Lazarou

Is methlone the same as methylone? I just couldn't find much information on methlone but plenty on methylone.. Methylone is closely related to MDMA (ecstacy)!

My understanding is that it was methanol which had been substituted for ethanol. There is some discussion about it here - What might be in our vapour? Have a guess ...

dc2k08 · 12-03-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pillbox38

Notice on the "electronic Cigarette Companies" site no 15ml generic Menthol has been for sale on there for 4 months..And wont be again....This to had Methlone in it..Check with your suppliers....Unless its not important to you.

hi pillbox, when you say that, do you mean from your site ? i was going to buy some the other day till i remember you saying that about the menthol so i was thinking of going with crystals instead and mixing it with tobacco juice. is all your menthol stuff okay like the link below or just the wicked ?

The Electronic Cigarette Company (UK) Ltd. - SHOP - E.LIQUID > MENTHOL

edit: oh i see, there is no buy button on the menthol shtuff - gettit !

pillbox38 · 12-03-2008, 08:13 PM

dc2ko8, that link is to a dormant product..I wont be replacing it, notice no stock level and no ability to buy it

Try the Wicked Menthol, or even better the Spearmint...Thats a great taste...

Totally Wicked E liquid - Premier Electronic Cigarette fluid

12-03-2008, 12:37 AM	#22
Bertrand Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 467	You can't do everything yourself. It's not like JC buy crude oil, put it through their refinery, fraction out the propene, break it into propylene oxide, hydrolyze it into propylene glycol and then purify it. You could do what freesmoke do, though, and get it made up by a pharmacist. A lot of them won't want to touch it. They seem to be pretty cottoned on to the risks involved in distributing nicotine in small containers, and don't want to be responsible for the death of a small child. But I'm sure if you ask enough of them you could find one interested. It would cost pennies to make, could be sold at a premium, and testing every batch may even be economically viable. You just need to test by the gallon PG and other ingredients separately rather than have 6 different strength x 20 = 120 different strength and flavour combinations. Edit: had another thought. Another approach would be to just get one flavour at one concentration in bulk (whatever's most popular) and test that. If you get twenty litres of it at a time, mix it up in a large foodsafe tapped container, you only need to do one test. I don't know how much the testing costs, but you could explain why this particular liquid costs more than your others, and why it only comes in one flavour and strength. Last edited by Bertrand; 12-03-2008 at 01:03 AM.

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12-03-2008, 12:35 AM	#21
Papa Lazarou Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 421	Is methlone the same as methylone? I just couldn't find much information on methlone but plenty on methylone.. Methylone is closely related to MDMA (ecstacy)!

12-03-2008, 12:51 PM	#23
ben30mc Full Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 12	Sorry to change the subject, but I can't start a thread yet. I have just purchased a 901b and love it. It seems that I will only be needing 2 cartridges a day, but I'm wondering if someone can give me a guide to the juice, and how it compares price wise with cartridges. Specifically does anybody know how much juice is in a cartridge to begin with, and what would the equivalent be in ml's of juice to 2 cartridges. Thanks in advance for any help.

12-03-2008, 01:23 PM	#24
Mommyshann Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 323	Ben, a mini cartridge generally holds about .5ml of juice. So, 2 cartridges would equal about 1ml of juice. The average vaper uses 2ml a day. The pre-filled cartridges are about $1 each and e-liquid prices vary from seller to seller but are on average about $10 for a 10-15ml bottle which comes out to being twice the product for half the price or better. The juice can be dripped into your used cartridges that you have on hand. Hope that helped!

12-03-2008, 08:13 PM	#29
pillbox38 UK/EU Supplier Forum Sponsor ECF Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lancashire. England Posts: 624	dc2ko8, that link is to a dormant product..I wont be replacing it, notice no stock level and no ability to buy it Try the Wicked Menthol, or even better the Spearmint...Thats a great taste... Totally Wicked E liquid - Premier Electronic Cigarette fluid