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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer View Post
    JC-Zero nic has a bitter sweet taste and they list their ingrediants, but you always get that "natural and artifical flavorings" ---so who knows.


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    Sun, I believe it's the maltyl that adds the sweetness - datasheet linked below - at website on the right is the list of flavors that use maltyl - to be noted - matyl was used in ww1 i think as a bioweapon gas - so extreme care should be used when handling raw product

    maltyl isobutyrate 65416-14-0

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    VG is extremely sweet, if you take some USP VG and put it on your tongue, it almost seems sweeter than sugar. Ethyl Maltol is also sweet tasting, though I am not sure if they use this in any of their flavors. You will notice that Dekang doesn't have SDS certificates for every single flavor. I tried to get the SDS for unflavored and they said that it wasn't available

    Then there are artifical flavors, just like loranns (cotton candy comes to mind), that are sugar free and extremely sweet.

    FWIW, the unflavored PG liquid from Dekang is not sweet at all, to me. It just tastes plain, like steam.

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    The main reason I'm trying to find out is because I like to avoid artificial sweeteners when at all possible. That doesn't mean I'll stop vaping if some of the flavors do have artificial sweeteners, but I'd like to know if they're used in them nonetheless.

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    So do you think this company is safe or what? I am suspicious of Chinese companies. This one seems kind of legit, but can we be sure we aren't inhaling dangerous things if they don't tell us what's in them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantfan View Post
    So do you think this company is safe or what? I am suspicious of Chinese companies. This one seems kind of legit, but can we be sure we aren't inhaling dangerous things if they don't tell us what's in them?
    You mean like cigarettes? I'll take my chances on Chinese juice despite the bigotry.

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    PG a bit sweet, but the e-juice is not sugary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantfan View Post
    So do you think this company is safe or what? I am suspicious of Chinese companies. This one seems kind of legit, but can we be sure we aren't inhaling dangerous things if they don't tell us what's in them?
    Dekang is far and away your best choice. At least some 3rd party testing in various parts of the world has been done and documented, it's the current, unregulated, USA made juices that you should be suspicious of.

    I've been using glycerine as a sweetener for a while now, products like NOW don't impress me when they state:
    all-natural product derived from vegetable oil
    Just another catch-as-catch-can bio-diesel byproduct. Without naming the vegetable oils I assume they are talking the usual crap seed oils; corn, soybean, cotton, rape (Canola). These are not naturally occurring vegetable oils, these are unstable, man made abominations that should not be part of a healthy diet.

    If one is concerned about natural, these two at least use naturally occurring, as found in nature, real vegetable oils:

    Pure Vegetable Glycerin by Nature's Answer - BB-1266 - at The Vitamin Shoppe

    Pure vegetable glycerin, coconut derived.

    Vegetable Glycerine - Starwest Botanicals

    100% food grade, vegetable glycerine is derived from palm oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheRedPill View Post
    Sun, I believe it's the maltyl that adds the sweetness - datasheet linked below - at website on the right is the list of flavors that use maltyl - to be noted - matyl was used in ww1 i think as a bioweapon gas - so extreme care should be used when handling raw product

    maltyl isobutyrate 65416-14-0

    It is the Ethyl Maltol used in some e-liquids. I just tired some and the it is out of this world. Just a pinch is all that is needed.

    Ethyl maltol, 2-ethyl-3-hydroxy-4-pyrone, 2-ethyl pyromeconic acid, or C7H8O3 is an analog of maltol, where the methyl group on maltol is substituted with an ethyl group. It is a stable white crystalline powder at room temperature and easily dissolves in many polar liquids. Ethyl maltol has a melting point of between 89 and 93 °C, and a boiling point of 161 °C.

    This chemical has a sweet odor that can be described as caramalized sugar and cooked fruit. It is an important flavourant for the food, beverage, and fragrance industry. Ethyl maltol is non-toxic, highly pleasant to human sense of smell, and easily detected by the human, with as little as 10 parts per million perceivable in air.




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    So, how do you obtain a retail small amount of Ethyl Maltol? Google and EBay aren't much help.

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