Clouds of vapor - why?

[arkangel]

Just trolling for opinions here: While I'm 100% a "to each their own" type person, I was wondering why "insane vapor" is such a big selling point for one device/mod over another?

I've watched the videos and am finding myself drawn to getting those clouds too...but then I ask myself why that is? I'm using the KR808D, interchanging VL and Mist-Stix cartomizers, both giving good throat hit and respectable vapor, nearly the same as an analog--so what's the attraction to the vapor of a 501 or the mods I've seen reviewed?

I've noticed that the vapor isn't totally odorless--it's clearly not the stench of analogs, doesn't stick to clothes or skin like analogs, but I can definitely tell when I walk into a room I was vaping in. So if I break down and get a "cloud maker", am I just replacing one odor for another? Granted, chocolate or Red Bull is better than analogs, but still...

Also, vaping in public: right now I can pretty much vape anywhere, keeping it discreet and holding the inhale awhile so no vapor comes out--I get my fix after eating or while drinking without getting hassled. Also I'm pretty comfortable vaping in no smoking hotel rooms, trusting that it wouldn't be harmful to the next guest.

Does anyone take the 501/mods/cloud makers out into public (meaning in enclosed places)? Does the increase in vapor make vaping seem more like smoking to you, where the lack of vapor would make you switch devices, even if you're getting the nic fix and it's helped you stay off analogs?

I guess I'm trying to figure what my own attraction is by listening to what others think and whether the lack of intense vapor production reduces your enjoyment of the experience?

[shamind]

This is relevant to my interests as well... bump

[Kent C]

Just trolling for opinions here: While I'm 100% a "to each their own" type person, I was wondering why "insane vapor" is such a big selling point for one device/mod over another?

I've watched the videos and am finding myself drawn to getting those clouds too...but then I ask myself why that is? I'm using the KR808D, interchanging VL and Mist-Stix cartomizers, both giving good throat hit and respectable vapor, nearly the same as an analog--so what's the attraction to the vapor of a 501 or the mods I've seen reviewed?

I've noticed that the vapor isn't totally odorless--it's clearly not the stench of analogs, doesn't stick to clothes or skin like analogs, but I can definitely tell when I walk into a room I was vaping in. So if I break down and get a "cloud maker", am I just replacing one odor for another? Granted, chocolate or Red Bull is better than analogs, but still...

Also, vaping in public: right now I can pretty much vape anywhere, keeping it discreet and holding the inhale awhile so no vapor comes out--I get my fix after eating or while drinking without getting hassled. Also I'm pretty comfortable vaping in no smoking hotel rooms, trusting that it wouldn't be harmful to the next guest.

Does anyone take the 501/mods/cloud makers out into public (meaning in enclosed places)? Does the increase in vapor make vaping seem more like smoking to you, where the lack of vapor would make you switch devices, even if you're getting the nic fix and it's helped you stay off analogs?

I guess I'm trying to figure what my own attraction is by listening to what others think and whether the lack of intense vapor production reduces your enjoyment of the experience?

Stick around. You'll read a lot of new members that will say that they tried gum, patches, Chantix and none of those worked even though the first two impart nicotine to the bloodstream. I figure the vapor is likely 50% or more of the habit or say 30% hand/mouth habit and 30% vapor, 40% nicotine.... I'm guessing on the percentages but evidently, a lot of people here have had to have all three. Why? That's a book. :-)

[Allestaria]

Hello,

I have wondered the same thing. I myself get enough vapor from my 901 to "feel" like a normal analog. That is all I'm looking for out of my e-cig. To be as close to the feel of a normal analog.
I did get more vapor once. And choked. It was to harsh and painful and IMO wasn't worth the extra effort.
But I am also not completely satisfied yet either. But this is a post I'll be making shortly for some insight.

[gooney0]

I've got 2 replies for ya. Both are based on my opinion of course.

1) The vapor fills some of the "hobby" aspect of smoking. While I was never into smoke rings, blowing smoke is the "cool" part of smoking. The vapor is also comforting to me and makes me "feel" like I'm smoking. I wish my PV would run a little trail of vapor when I'm not puffing it.

I enjoy the smell of cigarette smoke while its in smoke form. Once it settles onto things not so much.

2) "clouds of vapor" was a good selling point for me when I got a 510 over other models such as the 901. In my mind more vapor means more powerful. Faster acting, more flavor and so on.

PVs are under powered compared to cigarettes. (As I expected) I'd prefer to take a shorter lighter draw.

-Gooney0

[VapeStar]

I think it comes down to personal preference. I prefer the large amounts of vapor production but I can also understand why some wouldn't. I know that some liquids tend to linger in the air longer than others which is also a personal preference once again.

[Psyc]

I've noticed that the vapor isn't totally odorless

This is the first time I've heard that. I sit in the middle of an office puffing out clouds all day, and then come home and hit my 510 all evening next to the non-smoker wife with allergies to everything under the sun. No one has been able to smell it so far.

Does anyone take the 501/mods/cloud makers out into public (meaning in enclosed places)?

Very much so, yes. I'm pretty much exclusively 510 (at least for the time being) and when I get my chuck in I'll be using that instead of the normal batts.

Blowing out significant amounts of vapor has been a crucial part of the experience for me and everyone I've met. It's relaxing, makes it appear more like smoking, and is one of the big reasons why a PV will work where gum/patches/etc fail. I guess specifically for the act of stealth vaping it'd apply, but generally no one wants less vapor.

[trog100]

the history of these things is they didnt produce enough vapour in a reliable consistent way.. an e cig is just like a real cig.. vapour is just like smoke.. a person needs "enough" and needs it in a reliable way..

when a reviewer blows out clouds of smoke they are just saying this device works as opposed to not works... a wimpy e cig is just like smoking a real cig with a hole in the side.. not very satisfying..

but just because the reviewer exaggerates the vapour as much as possible dont mean eveyone needs that amount every time.. but it does at least mean the device works... not so long back many of them didnt..

if e cigs have change it is the newer ones are set up to produce more vapour than the older ones.. ruyan used the word discrete.. which meant minimal visible vapour.. this was part an excuse for wimpy e cigs and part logical.. clouds of vapour will piss off none smokers.. ruyan knew this..

this still applies in public places.. a little discretion make good sense..

trog

ps.. there is a downside to more vapour.. it needs more battery power and hits the battery life.. e cigs are a compromise between battery life and vapour production.. the trend has gone against battery life and edged towards more vapour.. this thread kind of makes it obvious why..

[Brachinus]

Vapor doesn't taste or feel quite like smoke, so visible clouds of vapor provides tangible feedback that the unit you bought really is working.

Plus, throat hit, flavor, nicotine hit, etc., don't really show up on video very well. So video reviews tend to emphasize the visual aspect.

P.S. I don't know where to get it, but I recall reading that there's a company that makes e-liquid specially designed for "stealth vaping," like on a plane, where plumes of smoke-looking stuff would be inappropriate. And of course if you hold it in and then blow it down your shirt there won't be much visible vapor no matter what you're using.

[Kent C]

P.S. I don't know where to get it, but I recall reading that there's a company that makes e-liquid specially designed for "stealth vaping," like on a plane, where plumes of smoke-looking stuff would be inappropriate. And of course if you hold it in and then blow it down your shirt there won't be much visible vapor no matter what you're using.

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