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Giantfan · 11-03-2009, 05:42 PM

I have been direct dripping. I had no problem at all until I recently started using 510 atomizers from a different seller. I don't know if they are the problem or what, but I have noticed that some of the juice has been leaking in the battery.

Now the batteries performance seem to be getting poor. They work, light up and everything, but the vapor production sucks.

My question is, do you think they are dead or the juice has hurt them?

Is there any way to revive them? I tried putting paper towl rolled up, to clean them out, but it doesn't seem to have done anything.

By the way, the atomizer coil seem bent to one side in the atomizers. The original atomizers I got from TW were straight. Also, the batteries have a bigger hole inside. The new batteries I got have a tiny hole.

Can someone explain any of this?

rjp44 · 11-03-2009, 06:40 PM

Sorry I can't help you, I use the manual battery 510 which is sealed and therefore no worries about juice getting in. There is a new thread about attys bent to one side.

Giantfan · 11-03-2009, 06:48 PM

Yeah, I made that one, but worried that people might miss it.

Do you know if there are any sealed automatic batteries for the 510?

I prefer automatics because they are more natural to me.

Posideon · 11-03-2009, 06:57 PM

Can't have a sealed auto battery. The hole allows airflow to trigger the battery turning on or off.

MadeyeTony · 11-03-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Posideon

Can't have a sealed auto battery. The hole allows airflow to trigger the battery turning on or off.

I'm sure that may be the case now, but how hard could it be to engineer a battery that is sealed beyond the sensor. I would be willing to pay more for it as well as many others on this forum.

miketr · 11-05-2009, 05:17 AM

Here 901 auto switch failing?
and here: Things that might go wrong - and how to fix them
Worked for me.
The hole allows air pressure to get to the sensor, and the lowered air pressure is what sets off the auto battery in that case. I've also read some batteries use a microphone instead of a pressure switch. In either case, a flexible thin silicone barrier should be a feasible design mod IMHO.
As a guess, for a single manufacturer, variations in the manufacturing process could account for a bent coil or wick. How can you see the coil of a 510 atty clearly without taking it apart?
And differences in hole sizes may be different manufacturers. There are original Joye 510 atty's, which have serial numbers imprinted on the gold battery contact's flat surfaces, and 510 knockoffs by other manufacturers that don't have serial numbers.
So sure, I explained all of it, but the question is, are they the right explanations?

Hope this helps some.
I'd recommend that you make sure you are using a vendor others have confirmed is selling genuine Joye 510 parts.

Giantfan · 11-06-2009, 04:50 PM

Thanks a lot. My Totally Wicked atty doesn't have a serial number, and neither do these chinese ones I have. Maybe TW's don't because they already say Titan. Maybe the Chinese ones are fakes.

Scottbee · 11-06-2009, 05:05 PM

Example: The KR808D-1 auto battery actually IS sealed (when properly assembled). The hole leads to a silicone diaphragm. That diaphragm has a small magnet embedded in it that works in conjunctions with a thing called a Hall Effect device. In short, the diaphragm actually seals the end of the battery. If the diaphragm gets filled with liquid you might get intermittent or undesired action out of the battery.. but no liquid can actually get down into the electronics. And with a rolled-up paper-towel you can wick the liquid back out of the diaphragm cavity.

FYI: the diaphragm looks a lot like a very small silicone baby bottle nipple, with no hole.

11-03-2009, 05:42 PM	#1
Giantfan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 152	Batteries: reviving them, knowing when they're dead etc I have been direct dripping. I had no problem at all until I recently started using 510 atomizers from a different seller. I don't know if they are the problem or what, but I have noticed that some of the juice has been leaking in the battery. Now the batteries performance seem to be getting poor. They work, light up and everything, but the vapor production sucks. My question is, do you think they are dead or the juice has hurt them? Is there any way to revive them? I tried putting paper towl rolled up, to clean them out, but it doesn't seem to have done anything. By the way, the atomizer coil seem bent to one side in the atomizers. The original atomizers I got from TW were straight. Also, the batteries have a bigger hole inside. The new batteries I got have a tiny hole. Can someone explain any of this?

11-06-2009, 05:05 PM	#8
Scottbee Super Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Okauchee Lake, WI Posts: 1,116	Example: The KR808D-1 auto battery actually IS sealed (when properly assembled). The hole leads to a silicone diaphragm. That diaphragm has a small magnet embedded in it that works in conjunctions with a thing called a Hall Effect device. In short, the diaphragm actually seals the end of the battery. If the diaphragm gets filled with liquid you might get intermittent or undesired action out of the battery.. but no liquid can actually get down into the electronics. And with a rolled-up paper-towel you can wick the liquid back out of the diaphragm cavity. FYI: the diaphragm looks a lot like a very small silicone baby bottle nipple, with no hole. __________________

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11-03-2009, 06:40 PM	#2
rjp44 In a cloud of vapor Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: West Chester, OH Posts: 431	Sorry I can't help you, I use the manual battery 510 which is sealed and therefore no worries about juice getting in. There is a new thread about attys bent to one side.

11-03-2009, 06:48 PM	#3
Giantfan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 152	Yeah, I made that one, but worried that people might miss it. Do you know if there are any sealed automatic batteries for the 510? I prefer automatics because they are more natural to me.

11-03-2009, 06:57 PM	#4
Posideon Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA Posts: 55	Can't have a sealed auto battery. The hole allows airflow to trigger the battery turning on or off.

11-05-2009, 05:17 AM	#6
miketr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Illinois (rural area) Posts: 219 Blog Entries: 1	Here 901 auto switch failing? and here: Things that might go wrong - and how to fix them Worked for me. The hole allows air pressure to get to the sensor, and the lowered air pressure is what sets off the auto battery in that case. I've also read some batteries use a microphone instead of a pressure switch. In either case, a flexible thin silicone barrier should be a feasible design mod IMHO. As a guess, for a single manufacturer, variations in the manufacturing process could account for a bent coil or wick. How can you see the coil of a 510 atty clearly without taking it apart? And differences in hole sizes may be different manufacturers. There are original Joye 510 atty's, which have serial numbers imprinted on the gold battery contact's flat surfaces, and 510 knockoffs by other manufacturers that don't have serial numbers. So sure, I explained all of it, but the question is, are they the right explanations? Hope this helps some. I'd recommend that you make sure you are using a vendor others have confirmed is selling genuine Joye 510 parts.

11-06-2009, 04:50 PM	#7
Giantfan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 152	Thanks a lot. My Totally Wicked atty doesn't have a serial number, and neither do these chinese ones I have. Maybe TW's don't because they already say Titan. Maybe the Chinese ones are fakes.