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ZambucaLu · 01-06-2009, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperStack

Lu what they don't tell you however, is that fast charging Ni-MH trashes the battery life.

This is why I went with Powerex batteries (the best) & recharger kit, which does it slower at 3 hours but these things last almost forever

Really??? No, they don't say that ....lol

Powerex batteries and recharger? I have never seen that. I could probably do 3 hours....just not overnight (although 15 minutes sounded even better

)

What mah are they stack? Have you used them yet with a usb ecig?

Lu

trog100 · 01-06-2009, 04:47 AM

USB e cig leads have voltage or current limiters built into them.. with ones like the janty with a battery in line the battery does this..

the ones that dont have the battery inline have the current restricter somewhere else..

the e cig heater coil has a resistance based on it being fed between 3.5 and 4 volts.. a PC USB socket puts out 5 volts.. its maximum rating is 500 ma.. feeding five volts straight from the USB socket to the e cig atomizer will wreck the PC..

its better to use a USB power hub..

charging a lithium cell too quickly will wreck it.. something that takes two hours is good.. something that takes twenty minutes is bad...

lithium ion battery technology is fragile technology it dosnt like being abused.. the cell is abused when its discharged no sense in adding to the abuse with the charge..

the term is "C" one C equals a one hour charge or a one hour discharge..

C is the capacity of the battery.. one C would be to discharge the battery at a one hour rate.. or charge the battery at a one hour rate..

a normal e cig battery gets short bursts of up to six C discharge every time a puff is taken which is why they die so quickly..

a continuous on situation would discharge a normal e cig battery in about eight minutes..

e cig batteries aint happy bunnies and for a very good reason.. they are literally being flogged to a quick death.. even the so called better ones..

just some e cig lithium ion battery facts.. if any manufacturer wished to dispute my facts they are free to do so.. i am 100% sure none will..

trog

ZambucaLu · 01-06-2009, 04:57 AM

It's probably a good thing I didn't use that charger then. But what about those 2450 mah rechargeable batts? Would they be just as good as the battery packs they are talking about here? If so, I could just get a longer-charging charger.

Lu

SuperStack · 01-06-2009, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SambucaLu

Really??? No, they don't say that ....lol

Powerex batteries and recharger? I have never seen that. I could probably do 3 hours....just not overnight (although 15 minutes sounded even better

)

What mah are they stack? Have you used them yet with a usb ecig?

I have a bunch of 1000 mah tripple-A's. They're really, really good. More expensive than the cheap Chinese stuff to be sure, but man quality really makes a difference.

Maha PowerEX 1000 mAH AAA Rechargeable NiMH Rechargeable Batteries

I haven't used them on a mod yet, but I might down the road once I have a bunch of dead parts to play with

Brian S · 01-06-2009, 02:39 PM

RX4-C AA Universal Battery Charger | ZAP Electric Cars | Green Electric Car | Electric Scooters

This is what I have been using. A charge lasts about 3 days and it takes 4 hours to recharge. The first worked so good I bought a second for backup.

Brian

ladybug51 · 01-06-2009, 05:40 PM

Okay you guys below. I can't understand how these would work unless it's with a special e-cig. Which one is that please. I'd like to know asap if possible. I am having an awful nicotine fit waiting for my one battery to charge since the other pooped out and this one only lasts a couple hours!!!!

Bug

equazcion · 01-06-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladybug51

Okay you guys below. I can't understand how these would work unless it's with a special e-cig. Which one is that please. I'd like to know asap if possible. I am having an awful nicotine fit waiting for my one battery to charge since the other pooped out and this one only lasts a couple hours!!!!

Bug

There's a device available called a "USB passthrough battery" (even though it's not actually a battery... or a passthrough). It's a device that screws on to your e-cig in place of a battery, and has a wire coming out that goes to a USB port. It lets you power your cig directly from any USB port.

These battery packs we're talking about have a USB port that you can plug that wire into.

Here's an example of one from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For ECigs, Parts, & Accessories!

ladybug51 · 01-06-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equazcion

There's a device available called a "USB passthrough battery" (even though it's not actually a battery... or a passthrough). It's a device that screws on to your e-cig in place of a battery, and has a wire coming out that goes to a USB port. It lets you power your cig directly from any USB port.

These battery packs we're talking about have a USB port that you can plug that wire into.

Here's an example of one from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For ECigs, Parts, & Accessories!

Does that mean I have to carry the device around with me too? Or does it charge the battery, you remove it, and go on your merry way? It didn't say or I didn't read enough.

Thanks for your help too!

PS: It doesn't do any good if the battery went ka-put. I'' go back to the site and see if I can find out more. Thanks again!!!

equazcion · 01-06-2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladybug51

Does that mean I have to carry the device around with me too? Or does it charge the battery, you remove it, and go on your merry way? It didn't say or I didn't read enough.

Thanks for your help too!

No problem

You would need to carry around both the battery pack and the USB "passthrough" device. But the USB device is just the size of an ordinary e-cig battery. It even looks identical, except it has a wire coming out that goes to a USB plug. It's really not a hassle to "carry around"... you'd most likely just leave it screwed into your cig, instead of a battery.

bwood12043 · 01-06-2009, 06:19 PM

I don't know about everyone else, but I have been using the usb passthrough battery and both a battery pack and plugging in.

I find for myself (heavy user) that the battery pack clipped to pocket/waistband, whatever, then with the passthrough plugged into it, that it's not near as inconvenient as worrying about battery charge. I do still use batteries quite a bit though, for those times on the go or when I just don't want the battery pack on me.

For me, it's working best to have a choice of tools, but even with all those things to keep up with, it's so much better than keeping analogs and lighters and ashtrays and etc etc. Not to mention that this is a MUCH lower hassle level than carrying around an oxygen tank with a cannula in your nose and that's where I was headed.

Everyone has to make their own choices based on their lifestyle, habits, smoking preferences and budget, but I am a junky to e-vaping, so I choose them ALL.

Maybe need to go to E-HAB ! ! ! !

01-06-2009, 04:57 AM	#73
ZambucaLu I SEES ALL! Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central NY, USA Posts: 8,057	It's probably a good thing I didn't use that charger then. But what about those 2450 mah rechargeable batts? Would they be just as good as the battery packs they are talking about here? If so, I could just get a longer-charging charger. Lu __________________ New Suppliers READ THIS THREAD!

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ladybug51 Mostly a BUG! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern CA, USA Posts: 358	Okay you guys below. I can't understand how these would work unless it's with a special e-cig. Which one is that please. I'd like to know asap if possible. I am having an awful nicotine fit waiting for my one battery to charge since the other pooped out and this one only lasts a couple hours!!!! Bug __________________ One lump or two don't mean sugar sweetie.

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01-06-2009, 04:47 AM	#72
trog100 Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 3,284	USB e cig leads have voltage or current limiters built into them.. with ones like the janty with a battery in line the battery does this.. the ones that dont have the battery inline have the current restricter somewhere else.. the e cig heater coil has a resistance based on it being fed between 3.5 and 4 volts.. a PC USB socket puts out 5 volts.. its maximum rating is 500 ma.. feeding five volts straight from the USB socket to the e cig atomizer will wreck the PC.. its better to use a USB power hub.. charging a lithium cell too quickly will wreck it.. something that takes two hours is good.. something that takes twenty minutes is bad... lithium ion battery technology is fragile technology it dosnt like being abused.. the cell is abused when its discharged no sense in adding to the abuse with the charge.. the term is "C" one C equals a one hour charge or a one hour discharge.. C is the capacity of the battery.. one C would be to discharge the battery at a one hour rate.. or charge the battery at a one hour rate.. a normal e cig battery gets short bursts of up to six C discharge every time a puff is taken which is why they die so quickly.. a continuous on situation would discharge a normal e cig battery in about eight minutes.. e cig batteries aint happy bunnies and for a very good reason.. they are literally being flogged to a quick death.. even the so called better ones.. just some e cig lithium ion battery facts.. if any manufacturer wished to dispute my facts they are free to do so.. i am 100% sure none will.. trog

01-06-2009, 02:39 PM	#75
Brian S ECF Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 366	RX4-C AA Universal Battery Charger \| ZAP Electric Cars \| Green Electric Car \| Electric Scooters This is what I have been using. A charge lasts about 3 days and it takes 4 hours to recharge. The first worked so good I bought a second for backup. Brian

01-06-2009, 06:19 PM	#80
bwood12043 ECF Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Texas Posts: 128	I don't know about everyone else, but I have been using the usb passthrough battery and both a battery pack and plugging in. I find for myself (heavy user) that the battery pack clipped to pocket/waistband, whatever, then with the passthrough plugged into it, that it's not near as inconvenient as worrying about battery charge. I do still use batteries quite a bit though, for those times on the go or when I just don't want the battery pack on me. For me, it's working best to have a choice of tools, but even with all those things to keep up with, it's so much better than keeping analogs and lighters and ashtrays and etc etc. Not to mention that this is a MUCH lower hassle level than carrying around an oxygen tank with a cannula in your nose and that's where I was headed. Everyone has to make their own choices based on their lifestyle, habits, smoking preferences and budget, but I am a junky to e-vaping, so I choose them ALL. Maybe need to go to E-HAB ! ! ! !