PEG a new ingredient, instead of PG and VG

[RjG]

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PG is Propylene Glycol C3H8O2, not Polyethylene Glycol C2n+2H4n+6On+2

[parapo]

is there any other known liquid that uses PEG?

[FlufferNutter]

I'll go one better. We need for the producers to start the approval processes with the FDA and other national agencies. They are the ones making money on this and should be the ones to foot the bill for health agencies approvals. Then listing the contents would either be obligatory or at least a government agency would ride shotgun on what's put into it!!!
Don't forget these are the same folks who brought us melamine in the dog food and lead paint on kid's toys!!!

Uhmm sorry, but if they foot the bill, do you realize who will REALLY foot the bill? Their customers. If this happens, expect to pay waaayyy more for your juice. I don't think you realize how much this "approval" process costs. It's, essentially, a bribe.

[MagusSteele]

PEG is Radiator Fluid
NOT GOOD

[tribalmasters]

YUCK!! Radiator fluid? I sure hope my e-liquid doesn't have that in it!!

[Pleased2BHere]

Uhmm sorry, but if they foot the bill, do you realize who will REALLY foot the bill? Their customers. If this happens, expect to pay waaayyy more for your juice. I don't think you realize how much this "approval" process costs. It's, essentially, a bribe.

Yes you are correct in that we will pay the bill. In the long run if we are to have access to these products and with some oversight, it will cost money. All consumer product we ingest incur these costs. Sorry no free ride!!!!

[Pleased2BHere]

PEG is Radiator Fluid
NOT GOOD

From Wikipedia:

Polyethylene glycol has a low toxicity[4] and is used in a variety of products. It is the basis of a number of laxatives (e.g. macrogol-containing products such as Movicol and polyethylene glycol 3350, or MiraLax or GlycoLax). It is the basis of many skin creams, as cetomacrogol, and sexual lubricants, frequently combined with glycerin.

Also from wikipedia:
Ethylene glycol (monoethylene glycol (MEG), 1,2-ethanediol, IUPAC name: ethane-1,2-diol) is an alcohol with two -OH groups (a diol), a chemical compound widely used as an automotiveantifreeze. In its pure form, it is an odorless, colorless, syrupy, sweet tasting, toxic liquid.



But you are not far off. Here's our old friend PG in the role himself!!

AMSOIL Antifreeze and Engine Coolant (ANT)
See Pricing Information or Place an Order
Package sizes include:

1-Gallon Bottle
1-Gallon Bottles (case of 4)
55-Gallon Drum

Safe, Universal Propylene Glycol Antifreeze

Seems it is a superior and a non toxic form of antifreeze. Wonder if our new PEG formula is a laxative???? I would not try vaping this mixture though!!! LOL

[bribri]

Are you sure you want to enter into this question? I don't think you realize how big the rabbit hole is that you are talking about. How about a very small minor thing, much less then asking them to supply ingredients... Try asking your supplier of E-juice what the "24 mg" or "11 mg" juice is divided by to get that number, is it 24 mg per drop? per ML? per ounce? I dare you to ask your suppliers... Let me tell you something, I asked six or seven of the biggest ones about six months ago, and I got three or four different answers, and two of them blatently said "I am not so sure"! And one of those who said he wasn't so sure, is the biggest re-seller in the industry.

[mrwade01]

Yes you are correct in that we will pay the bill. In the long run if we are to have access to these products and with some oversight, it will cost money. All consumer product we ingest incur these costs. Sorry no free ride!!!!

I completely agree with Pleased and I will go on to say that in light of the sucess I've had in only one week after smoking for soooo long. I'm willing to pay the price.
Robert

[Lika]

Here you go - challenge to resellers. TELL US WHAT YOU ARE SELLING US.

Repeat sales come from service, quality, and prices.... that's the magic formula.

Not by having the "coolest" name on your "top secret" juice. That's just wrong.

That's my opinion.... anybody agree?

Agreed....