Smokeless E-Liquid ?

[katink]

All the real Ruyan liquid when inhaled and kept in for a second gives virtualy no vapor at all when exhaled. (Goes for the real Ruyan - so not Ry1 to 4) What you can do, as there isn't ruyan liquid in bottles for sale, is buy ruyan cigar- or even better pipe-cartridges from Wayne at Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop and squeeze them out in a syringe - this will get you your bottle of ruyan-liquid that you can then use to fill any cartridge you are using. It does seem to work even better when also using a ruyan-device (cheap one would be the bling, also at Wayne) - but even just using the liquid will get you very close to vaporless provided you inhale first (you can get vapor enough with the ruyanliquid too, if you don't inhale... so this part is needed to let the vapor disappear).
Hope this helps you to find what you are looking for

[smokindeuce]

btw TBob, Can't buy snus in Britain. Illegal.

Just to point out that although snus is illegal to sell in the UK and most of the rest of Europe, you can still order direct from buysnus.com or the northerner websites based in Sweden. I have had a number of orders in the past, all of which arrived in around 5 days.

Snuff is legal to sell or buy in the UK.

Like others have said, Ruyan seem to produce ecigs that give very little vapour on the exhale.... I'm sure more will follow....

[TribbleTrouble]

Snus reminds me of the Skoal Bandits (Chewing Tobacco in a pouch). My Dad used those along with the Nicorette gum when he quit Pipe tobacco smoking.

[Papa Lazarou]

To repeat the above Ruyans own cartridges (the Bling is what I have used) produce visible vapour if you puff them but do not inhale. If you do inhale, virtually nothing comes out. I don't know if their Vegas or whatever would be the same (but the Jazz in the video above is).

[schu]

Couldn't you suspend the nicotine in distilled water or ethyl alcohol? I remember reading about a bottled water drink that had nicotine in it. If the ejuice were water based the exhale would be water vapor which would not be visible at room temperature. I don't know if the current atomizers would vaporize water. After all isn't the vapor just aesthetics? It's the nicotine and flavor that are the important things. And you wouldn't have to worry about the pg or vg side affects or metabolites. Although if there was no vapor how would you know when you were out of juice?

[lordmage]

one proplem with water the temp required to vaporize it is higher then the given PG/VG also would short out any electronic device that was not totally sealed from the liquid so what you asking is to make a boiling pan the size of your smoke which would get to hot to hold i'll stick with the inale while vapping method then hold 5 secs requires a hard draw and the 5 sec wait but not to near nothing comes out also i would help if e-smokers explained ahead of time to owners what is was and asked permission