Not an aid to quitting smoking? Seriously? in The E-Cigarette; How can anyone say that ecigs are not an aid to quit smoking when so many on this forum, like ...
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Not an aid to quitting smoking? Seriously?
How can anyone say that ecigs are not an aid to quit smoking when so many on this forum, like me, have found it so incredibly easy not to smoke now that we have ecigs.
I have tried nicotine gum, patches with no joy, I just couldn't go more than two days without a cigarette, then I try ecigs and giving up analogues was a cinch.
Are these people for real. Ecigs are superior to any other cure for smoking.
(except maybe the nicotine inhalator, never tried that to be fair).
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Welcome to the world ruled by lawyers where you cannot claim anything you do not have court-level solid proof of. I mean, several countries already openly declared in their courts that "truth is no defence". Those who thought this principle will remain restricted to thoughtcrime were deluding themselves from the very start. It also works for quitting smoking and many more future things.
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They are without any doubt a fantastic aid to giving up smoking ......but the problem is they aren't just an aid to giving up smoking .......they are an 'alternative' addiction, I bet in their wildest dreams they hadn't expected someone to come up with an enjoyable alternative to smoking.
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The biggest threat of the anti-smoking health fascists is their single-minded obsession with preventing pleasure in any form. E cigs give pleasure; therefore, e cigs should be banned. If these people are not the new Nazis, they are surely the new Puritans.
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Originally Posted by
sherid
The biggest threat of the anti-smoking health fascists is their single-minded obsession with preventing pleasure in any form. E cigs give pleasure; therefore, e cigs should be banned. If these people are not the new Nazis, they are surely the new Puritans.
That is so true.
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Originally Posted by
surbitonPete
......but the problem is they aren't just an aid to giving up smoking .......they are an 'alternative' addiction
Speaking generally, not personally - if that's really considered a problem, then commercial tobacco cigarettes aren't the worldwide scourge they are said to be.
Besides, I thought that all the money was in ramping up stimulant addictions [see: Starbucks].
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Originally Posted by
New Year quitter
How can anyone say that ecigs are not an aid to quit smoking when so many on this forum, like me, have found it so incredibly easy not to smoke now that we have ecigs.
Are these people for real. Ecigs are superior to any other cure for smoking.
(except maybe the nicotine inhalator, never tried that to be fair).
Well, if a company wants to make that kind of statement they better be able to back it up. If they can't then the FDA will remove the product from the market and litigate them.
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I think most of us who have taken up vaping are people who could 'never' have stopped smoking tobacco if the e-cigarette hadn't come along and I think we all feel so passionate and excited about vaping because our logic and our common sense tells us this 'must' be miles healthier for us. We might only have tried vaping in the first place because we were hoping to find something to satisfy our craving in places where smoking is banned.... but now it's become something much more than that to us...it's something that might save our lives .......and we are all scared because we also know that the health police are going to do everything they can to ban it. They are never going to want one addiction replaced with another addiction even if it is much 'safer'. The funny thing is that the E-cigarette would probably have never been invented if they hadn't banned people from smoking in so many places.
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SurbitronPete is right . . . unlike the patch or the nicotine gum, the goal of the ecig isn't to necessarily give up nicotine or even give up inhaling . . . it is an alternative to smoking (and we *think* a safer one).
Even so, there are plenty of people who are reporting getting down to 0 nic vaping, which is a huge thing. I think, though, that the original poster is the only one I've heard of who feels he could give up ecigs altogether. But, then again, people who have given up ecigs probably wouldn't be posting here.
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Let' put it another way: If this were a personal vaporizer patented and marketed by a Big Pharma company for treatment of nicotine addiction, how do you think it would have been received by governmental agencies?
But it isn't. It's a drug delivery device made in China using mostly untested liquid with an addictive and poisonous ingredient that the FDA says is a "new drug." Bingo. Now government involvement in this seemingly healthier alternative to cigarettes becomes more understandable.
What we have here is either a medical device (needs lots of approvals to market) or a recreational toy for addicts (good luck selling that concept). I see a bumpy road because of this.
But I'll continue to use and enjoy my e-cigs until the boot hits me ...
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