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PeteMcArthur · 02-09-2009, 10:44 PM

I think I've said all I can about the Dura. It cost me £110 including the PCC and I'm delighted to have sold it for £30. It has totally soured my regard for Janty. The carts leak, the batteries fail and the PCC doesn't work. Janty will replace your faulty batteries with new, faulty batteries, that's good customer service???

Every time I criticise Janty I get folks saying how wonderful they are and they'll sort it eventually, well they did not sort it for me. I learned a very expensive lesson, Janty lost a customer, don't suppose they care..

TECC.510 TITAN · 02-09-2009, 10:54 PM

Pete thats expensive.. Ive been trialling one and we have committed to stock the model.

No idea if janty offer dual atomisers or their price.. I wanted to try with no forum or other sellers input..I Love it.. No problem whatsoever.

And Joytech enforce no pricing structure so in reality Janty are very expensive, its that simple.. We worked out our price and what the customer would get for it.

PeteMcArthur · 02-09-2009, 11:03 PM

I'm sure that Joytech will get it right eventually. What I object to is substandard kits being sold to the public, Janty claiming they actually make the things and a two tier level of customer service, apparently excellent in the US but mediocre in Europe. Also anyone that knows a bit about batteries will see that the PCC can never work efficiently.

As my blood pressure is now of the scale I shall never mention Janty or Dura again, ever. And never will I pay them a single penny again.

*************** Rant over ********************8

TECC.510 TITAN · 02-09-2009, 11:07 PM

Pete all fair points, i can only go on what i have tried.. All appeared well. Joytech so far have been Exemplary, very efficient and easy to deal with..

We shall see what Uk users make of the product..Hope your B/P settles down..

linkdead · 02-09-2009, 11:16 PM

Well my 4 cents on the subject.
First let me say I love the hit that the Dura provides.
However one of my batteries cuts off after 2.5 seconds, the other sometimes 2.5 sometimes 7 seconds. I emailed them and they sent me one battery. Now I hope it works but that still leaves me with one funky battery.
I don't have a pilot but I have a friend who does. He loves it but said even with the pre-filled carts he often gets a mouthful of liquid.
So all in all I say its about half dozen of one and six of the other.

BrazilyanGuy · 02-09-2009, 11:29 PM

I have the two models, Janty Dura and the Pilot from puresmoker. The Pilot is a superb e-cigarette, good amount of vapour and a good throat hit. The Janty Dura is the best e-cigarette for me. It has a hugeeeee amount of vapor with the most powerfull throat hit that I ever felt, it is really superb. For me, the Janty Dura doesn't has a competitor with the same performance. I think that the Dura is a new class e-cigarette.

Spikey · 02-09-2009, 11:33 PM

I have only had my 401 a week... I can only compare it to the 901 (which was my 1st) and I am ready to give my 901 away to a friend and let her buy me a second 401 instead. Love the feel, love the size, love the look.

Carts are recessed into the mouthpiece, but if u have a steady hand and drip over the middle of the cart... (and limit to 2 or 3 drops) there does not seem to be any leakage into the mouthpiece. Sometimes I pull it up with tweezers and then refill so I don't overfill. It is great though. I have heard of a bunch of probs (like everyone is posting on here) about Dura tho.

bettyboop · 02-09-2009, 11:45 PM

Spikey, How is the battery life and does it have great vapor? Is the battery hinky like the 901's???

Spikey · 02-09-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bettyboop

Spikey, How is the battery life and does it have great vapor? Is the battery hinky like the 901's???

Battery life is better (by about 2 hours when I use it) on the 401. 901 lasts me about 5 hours, 401 is closer to 7 or 8 hours. Battery also seems to charge to full capacity faster on the 401 (I never go by the indicator lights.. they are not always accurate). I only know because I am impatient and sometimes take them off and use them after only 2 hours if I don't have my backup battery with me.

Vapor on the 901 looks like more on the exhale, but I seem to feel it better on the 401 (but I take little puffs (3 seconds on average)... unlike some of the big hitters who do video reviews here.

Cyborgasm · 02-10-2009, 12:22 AM

My first dura atomizer died after one day, got my replacement a few days ago and it's performing excellent. The atomizer seems to heat up faster than a 901, I think that's why it produces so much vapor/throat hit but also might be why they seem to die so often. Plus the carts last so much longer, I took 3 carts to work today with no extra juice and I didn't finish the one I started with. With my 901 i'm topping off carts every couple hours.

This was my first day out with the PCC but it doesn't seem to fully charge the batteries. It definetly charges them I just don't know how much, i'll have to use it a few more days to say for sure.

IMO the Dura is great...so far.

02-09-2009, 10:44 PM	#11
PeteMcArthur It all ended in tears Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 784	I think I've said all I can about the Dura. It cost me £110 including the PCC and I'm delighted to have sold it for £30. It has totally soured my regard for Janty. The carts leak, the batteries fail and the PCC doesn't work. Janty will replace your faulty batteries with new, faulty batteries, that's good customer service??? Every time I criticise Janty I get folks saying how wonderful they are and they'll sort it eventually, well they did not sort it for me. I learned a very expensive lesson, Janty lost a customer, don't suppose they care.. __________________

02-09-2009, 10:54 PM	#12
TECC.510 TITAN Supplier Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 38	Pete thats expensive.. Ive been trialling one and we have committed to stock the model. No idea if janty offer dual atomisers or their price.. I wanted to try with no forum or other sellers input..I Love it.. No problem whatsoever. And Joytech enforce no pricing structure so in reality Janty are very expensive, its that simple.. We worked out our price and what the customer would get for it. __________________ http://www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk Last edited by TECC.510 TITAN; 02-09-2009 at 11:01 PM.

02-09-2009, 11:03 PM	#13
PeteMcArthur It all ended in tears Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 784	I'm sure that Joytech will get it right eventually. What I object to is substandard kits being sold to the public, Janty claiming they actually make the things and a two tier level of customer service, apparently excellent in the US but mediocre in Europe. Also anyone that knows a bit about batteries will see that the PCC can never work efficiently. As my blood pressure is now of the scale I shall never mention Janty or Dura again, ever. And never will I pay them a single penny again. ************* Rant over ******************8 __________________

02-09-2009, 11:07 PM	#14
TECC.510 TITAN Supplier Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 38	Pete all fair points, i can only go on what i have tried.. All appeared well. Joytech so far have been Exemplary, very efficient and easy to deal with.. We shall see what Uk users make of the product..Hope your B/P settles down.. __________________ http://www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk

02-09-2009, 11:16 PM	#15
linkdead Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 95	Well my 4 cents on the subject. First let me say I love the hit that the Dura provides. However one of my batteries cuts off after 2.5 seconds, the other sometimes 2.5 sometimes 7 seconds. I emailed them and they sent me one battery. Now I hope it works but that still leaves me with one funky battery. I don't have a pilot but I have a friend who does. He loves it but said even with the pre-filled carts he often gets a mouthful of liquid. So all in all I say its about half dozen of one and six of the other. __________________

02-09-2009, 11:29 PM	#16
BrazilyanGuy ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil Posts: 59	I have the two models, Janty Dura and the Pilot from puresmoker. The Pilot is a superb e-cigarette, good amount of vapour and a good throat hit. The Janty Dura is the best e-cigarette for me. It has a hugeeeee amount of vapor with the most powerfull throat hit that I ever felt, it is really superb. For me, the Janty Dura doesn't has a competitor with the same performance. I think that the Dura is a new class e-cigarette.

02-09-2009, 11:33 PM	#17
Spikey Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 1,336	Pilot 401 I have only had my 401 a week... I can only compare it to the 901 (which was my 1st) and I am ready to give my 901 away to a friend and let her buy me a second 401 instead. Love the feel, love the size, love the look. Carts are recessed into the mouthpiece, but if u have a steady hand and drip over the middle of the cart... (and limit to 2 or 3 drops) there does not seem to be any leakage into the mouthpiece. Sometimes I pull it up with tweezers and then refill so I don't overfill. It is great though. I have heard of a bunch of probs (like everyone is posting on here) about Dura tho.

02-09-2009, 11:45 PM	#18
bettyboop ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: pa Posts: 104	Spikey, How is the battery life and does it have great vapor? Is the battery hinky like the 901's???

02-10-2009, 12:22 AM	#20
Cyborgasm Full Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 59	My first dura atomizer died after one day, got my replacement a few days ago and it's performing excellent. The atomizer seems to heat up faster than a 901, I think that's why it produces so much vapor/throat hit but also might be why they seem to die so often. Plus the carts last so much longer, I took 3 carts to work today with no extra juice and I didn't finish the one I started with. With my 901 i'm topping off carts every couple hours. This was my first day out with the PCC but it doesn't seem to fully charge the batteries. It definetly charges them I just don't know how much, i'll have to use it a few more days to say for sure. IMO the Dura is great...so far. __________________

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