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Jaaxx · 03-05-2009, 05:01 AM

I've been sampling liquid from everywhere I can get it for months. I've been getting capsaicin burning from a few of suppliers lately. Quit it! (note: I'm not naming names, but the worst offenders are from the far east (so may affect resellers, please sample your stuff))

And yes, I do know what nicotine "burn" feels like. Not it.

fenez · 03-05-2009, 05:07 AM

They really need to test all this liquid because they are very inconsistant which leads me to believe that no one is monitoring whats going on. Every batch of liquid should be just like the last one. This stuff does have the potential to be dangerous.

justrubl · 03-05-2009, 05:15 AM

I have noticed 2 things latelyl

1) I can use the same atomizer with the same cart and the same liquid but on my passthrough and it makes my throat burn like (and this is the only way I can relate it because on analogs I smoke ultralights) smokes a camel no-filter with a monster case of strep throat but put it on my screwdriver and not as much burn.

2)the only liquid that is smooth with no burn even with the screwdriver is johnson creek.

is this just me or am I doing something wrong??

Jaaxx · 03-05-2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by justrubl

I have noticed 2 things latelyl

1) I can use the same atomizer with the same cart and the same liquid but on my passthrough and it makes my throat burn like (and this is the only way I can relate it because on analogs I smoke ultralights) smokes a camel no-filter with a monster case of strep throat but put it on my screwdriver and not as much burn.

2)the only liquid that is smooth with no burn even with the screwdriver is johnson creek.

is this just me or am I doing something wrong??

The experts will be along shortly, but I can give you my opinion.

I think the passthrough causes the atomizer to operate at a higher temperature. But, I don't think it's the heat itself that causes the burning sensation, as much as what it does to the sugars, etc in the juice.

As far as JC, I notice the same thing. Doesn't seem to "burn" as readily. Also smells kinda oily. Love it. Just makes me wonder a bit.

(Wow, I think I just went off topic on my own thread!)

BTW I have NOT noticed this new penchant for pepper in JC juice. I have, however, noticed it will bust out of bluejeans from time to time

dc2k08 · 03-05-2009, 12:08 PM

jaaxx, what is capsaicin burning?

CaSHMeRe · 03-05-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dc2k08

jaaxx, what is capsaicin burning?

i think capsaicin is the same ingredient in like Icy-Hot. Its that ingredient that get super super hott!!!! I think its like a pepper derivative or something like that ... still not sure how they even get that stuff to work.

don't take that as Bible truth ... simply jogging something from memory (from many moons ago)

hey, at least I used to love Icy-Hot! LOL

O, and Jaaxx, if you are talking my juice, please let me know.

I haven't noticed anything personally (and yes, I do sample bottles from each batch) but ya never know!

dc2k08 · 03-05-2009, 01:03 PM

oh yeah. we have s similar product called deep heat over here. outdoor sports players sometimes rub it on their skin before a game if its cold. didn't know it was in any e-liquid...that's kind of worrying if it is.

edit: so its derived from chill peppers hmm.

Ringo* · 03-05-2009, 04:31 PM

I'll be watching this thread. I am in the midst of my first bottle of ejuice and have been experiencing sores in my mouth. I'm not sure if it's normal. My first one was behind my bottom lip. It cleared up after 2 days or so, and now I have a second one inside my left cheek. It feels raw and bumpy. I am not prone to these sorts of sores so I'm thinking this may be a possible explanation.

Jaaxx · 03-06-2009, 12:24 AM

No Cash, haven't noticed anything strange with your juice. Good as usual.

Capsaicin is the ingredient in peppers which causes the burn. It is, in itself, flavorless. Just causes the burning sensation. It is commercially available in a pure form. Most of the "insane" type novelty hot sauces use it to boost the heat. It is also used in "pepper spray!"

It can and does have a use as an ingredient in e-liquid, but I have noticed some liquid showing up with what I consider more than usual amounts lately.

aquius · 03-06-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringo*

I'll be watching this thread. I am in the midst of my first bottle of ejuice and have been experiencing sores in my mouth. I'm not sure if it's normal. My first one was behind my bottom lip. It cleared up after 2 days or so, and now I have a second one inside my left cheek. It feels raw and bumpy. I am not prone to these sorts of sores so I'm thinking this may be a possible explanation.

If you've cut down/stopped anologues it leaves certain people more prone to a condition known as RAU, which results in periodic ulcers in the mouth.

03-05-2009, 05:01 AM	#1
Jaaxx USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 494	Tongues afire... I've been sampling liquid from everywhere I can get it for months. I've been getting capsaicin burning from a few of suppliers lately. Quit it! (note: I'm not naming names, but the worst offenders are from the far east (so may affect resellers, please sample your stuff)) And yes, I do know what nicotine "burn" feels like. Not it.

03-05-2009, 05:15 AM	#3
justrubl ECF Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: houston, texas Posts: 109	more my throat then my tongue but still afire I have noticed 2 things latelyl 1) I can use the same atomizer with the same cart and the same liquid but on my passthrough and it makes my throat burn like (and this is the only way I can relate it because on analogs I smoke ultralights) smokes a camel no-filter with a monster case of strep throat but put it on my screwdriver and not as much burn. 2)the only liquid that is smooth with no burn even with the screwdriver is johnson creek. is this just me or am I doing something wrong??

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dc2k08 4mer 4um Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: .ie Posts: 1,815 Tweet this post!	oh yeah. we have s similar product called deep heat over here. outdoor sports players sometimes rub it on their skin before a game if its cold. didn't know it was in any e-liquid...that's kind of worrying if it is. edit: so its derived from chill peppers hmm. __________________ E-cig News \| On Twitter \| On Reddit Last edited by dc2k08; 03-05-2009 at 01:10 PM.

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03-05-2009, 05:07 AM	#2
fenez ECF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N.Y Posts: 1,197	They really need to test all this liquid because they are very inconsistant which leads me to believe that no one is monitoring whats going on. Every batch of liquid should be just like the last one. This stuff does have the potential to be dangerous.

03-05-2009, 04:31 PM	#8
Ringo* Full Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 66	I'll be watching this thread. I am in the midst of my first bottle of ejuice and have been experiencing sores in my mouth. I'm not sure if it's normal. My first one was behind my bottom lip. It cleared up after 2 days or so, and now I have a second one inside my left cheek. It feels raw and bumpy. I am not prone to these sorts of sores so I'm thinking this may be a possible explanation.

03-06-2009, 12:24 AM	#9
Jaaxx USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 494	No Cash, haven't noticed anything strange with your juice. Good as usual. Capsaicin is the ingredient in peppers which causes the burn. It is, in itself, flavorless. Just causes the burning sensation. It is commercially available in a pure form. Most of the "insane" type novelty hot sauces use it to boost the heat. It is also used in "pepper spray!" It can and does have a use as an ingredient in e-liquid, but I have noticed some liquid showing up with what I consider more than usual amounts lately.