Why/how do atomizers die?

[surbitonPete]

That tar-like stuff on the atomiser looks like burnt (caramelised) sugar to me so i suspect that atomiser was used with sweet fluid.

I also thought it looked just like burnt on sugar..but I have tried all the stuff that is supposed to be good for dissolving burnt on sugar with no luck at all.

[Houdini]

That tar-like stuff on the atomiser looks like burnt (caramelised) sugar to me so i suspect that atomiser was used with sweet fluid.

After looking at it again it actually looks like tar from an analog cig.

[Houdini]

Anyone know what temp it takes to heat titanium? If we could find titanium blend wire that will heat up.. we could make atomizers that last 100X as long (if they were washed every day)! I would shell out $50 for an atomizer if it was likely to last for years instead of weeks. If anyone wants to try making one... find the voltage required to heat titanium wire (thinnest gauge) to orange color .. lemme know.. I will try to find the wire if the battery capacity is enough to actually heat it that hot. The screwdriver may be the only device with enough capacity and if it sucks the life out of the battery it will not be worth it.

By the way... the only atomizer that died so far for me was the one that got killed by JC "cough medicine" flavor. I used the 901 for 10 days straight and then the 401 with 2 atomizers (alternating) for the past 6 weeks. I wash out 2X a week and have not had an atomizer die on me yet.

Actually, I think platinum would work better. I know they use platinum in RC glo plugs. I'm sure someone on here has to have thought of trying this. Plus it only needs 1.5v to heat up red hot.

[trog100]

That tar-like stuff on the atomiser looks like burnt (caramelised) sugar to me so i suspect that atomiser was used with sweet fluid.

you suspect wrongly...its not just a pic of one good atomizer.. just a pic of what they look like after xxxx puffs...

the problems is the wick stuff the atomizer heater wire is wrapped around...

when new it absorbs fluid.. the more it gets used the less it absorbs fluid..

"as new performance" are the key words.. if its wanted or needed atomizers nave to be replaced after around 5000 puffs.. just a rough ball park figure but its not far out..

buy cheap and replace often for best performance..

a heavy user soon makes the 5000 puff figure...

e cigs were never designed to replace a 30 a day haver smokers habit... ruyan made them for occasional use "social smoking".. a few hours a week at the most..

once you know this the rest becomes very very clear...

a £6 atomizer every two weeks aint expensive.. £3 quid a week.. whats the problem... ????

trog

[Houdini]

oops double post

[trog100]

platinum is used in RC glow plugs for a simple reason.. it acts as a catalyst which sets fire to the methanol fuel.... no other reason..

the electric current is just to start them.. once running the heat and the catalyst effect keeps them going..

RC glow plugs dont last long ether... he he

if you wanna know.. ask an expert.. he he

its kinda boring knowing the answer thow.. no needs for pages and pages of forum "may bes" then.. sad aint it... he he

trog

ps... i repeat...

a £6 atomizer every two weeks aint expensive.. £3 quid a week.. whats the problem... ????

[kinabaloo]

It might be that the sugar is created from the PG / VG in the high temperature environment of the heating coil.

Also, it looks like the material inside the coil is not connected to the liquid via the wire mesh, so what is it there for, just a former for winding the coil?

[trog100]

It might be that the sugar is created from the PG / VG in the high temperature environment of the heating coil.

Also, it looks like the material inside the coil is not connected to the liquid via the wire mesh, so what is it there for, just a former for winding the coil?

when i first saw one i thought it was there just to support the heater coils give them physical strength so to speak.... the first one i looked was just a black lump

but it seems to be like lighter wick material.. the liquid gets drawn into the little ceramic pot thru the holes in the sides..

the liquid comes from the wire wool (this is factory primed) that surrounds the little ceramic pot.. this get re-wetted by the liquid in the cart as the heater uses it up..

what seems to happen is the little piece of wick material soaks up some liquid from the little pot... the liquid that is soaked up gets heated and vaporized by the near red hot wire coil which is wrapped around the wick..

all very simple.. all very neat.. but its a semi disposable item.. if its sold as such there is no problem.. when it costs fifty f-cking dollars and the buyer is conned into believing its something else there is a problem..

the e cig industry loves me.. he he

trog

ps... this information should be stickied.. one can guess why its not...

[Idahojo]

Daniel at Puresmoke was so nice & told me how to clean the atomizer. He suggests holding it with tongs over a steaming teapot for 2-3 minutes, then blow it out the best you can. Repeat this process 2-3 times & then let it sit & dry for 2-3 hours. Once dry at 2 drops of liquid directly to the atomizer & with a fresh cart, after 40-50 puffs it should be good to go. I forgot to ask him how often you should clean it so any advice there would be appreciated. Also, why does it take 40-50 puffs for it to be good to go?

[ed_bollix]

My experience is that the 401/pilot/EVO atomizer just doesn't last like the 901. I have also has 901 atomizers last for months, not so with the EVO. Like Trog said, have a lot of em on hand. I clean em and everything, just doesn't seem to matter in the long run.