Petition

[e-pipeman]

I have just submitted a petition to 10, Downing Street online re: the use of e-cigs in public places. I fully expect that it will be knocked back, but when it is rejected it will be interesting to note what the reasons are for doing so. I must stress that this isn't online yet and has to go through an approval process first:

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to confirm that
the use of electronic cigarettes, pipes and personal vaporisers
is allowed in public places.

As electronic cigarettes and pipes do not involve the
combustion of tobacco or present a risk of passive smoking to
non-smokers this petition seeks confirmation that the use of
such devices in public places is acceptable."

I'll let you know what happens.

[surbitonPete]

Perhaps you should have changed that to 'enclosed' public places.

[e-pipeman]

Let's see what their response is, Pete. It will be interesting if they say that they cannot run the petition as the product is still undergoing health tests, for example. "Public places" should cover both indoors and outdoors.

[surbitonPete]

Let's see what their response is, Pete. It will be interesting if they say that they cannot run the petition as the product is still undergoing health tests, for example. "Public places" should cover both indoors and outdoors.

To be honest I am not really sure we need a petition because the fact is it 'isn't' illegal to vape in public places at all.....it's only down to the owners or managers of the places to decide if they want to let us vape on their premises because we aren't breaking any of the tobacco laws at all.

But I guess it will be interesting to see what they have to say.

[e-pipeman]

Indeed - but it's a grey area. As vapers we don't have the right to vape. We sit in an uneasy no-man's-land being neither illegal nor being able to vape as of right. Some clarification of our position would be helpful. Mainly I'm interested in Government response to the request as it may indicate the way in which they intend things to go.

[surbitonPete]

Indeed - but it's a grey area. As vapers we don't have the right to vape. We sit in an uneasy no-man's-land being neither illegal nor being able to vape as of right. Some clarification of our position would be helpful. Mainly I'm interested in Government response to the request as it may indicate the way in which they intend things to go.

I agree it would be nice to have the government clarify that it is 'legal' to vape...but it certainly isn't against the law to vape anyway as the laws stand. It's only because of confusion that some people are saying no to vaping on their premises.

[e-pipeman]

They have the right to say "no" when we are on their premises. If someone sees a vaper he or she may feel that they're lighting up. The petition isn't really about that - it's asking for confirmation that it is acceptable to vape in public places from the Government's standpoint. As I understand it a landlord of a pub can stop you doing anything on his premises, whether it's legal or not. It's wholly in his discretion.

[surbitonPete]

They have the right to say "no" when we are on their premises. If someone sees a vaper he or she may feel that they're lighting up. The petition isn't really about that - it's asking for confirmation that it is acceptable to vape in public places from the Government's standpoint. As I understand it a landlord of a pub can stop you doing anything on his premises, whether it's legal or not. It's wholly in his discretion.

Yes they have always had the right to stop smokers from smoking but they never did it until it was made illegal.

The government has made us all feel like kids now .....we have to ask for permission to do things even if they are legal.

[e-pipeman]

Yes-there was a time when grown-up people could indulge in grown-up pleasures without fear of reproach. Now that they've banned smoking they're on to alcohol and food...where will it all end?

[surbitonPete]

Yes-there was a time when grown-up people could indulge in grown-up pleasures without fear of reproach. Now that they've banned smoking they're on to alcohol and food...where will it all end?

Yes I thought it was great to become a grown man and no longer have to ask for anyone's permission to do anything......but now I feel just like a schoolboy who has to put his hand up and ask for permission to do anything at all.