What about the kids?

[panderson01]

Boy, if this does have some kind of second hand downside, our personal vaporizers are doomed, law wise.

BTW, my parents smoke around me from birth to the time they quit and my siblings along with myself, ended up smoking.

ALSO, my wife's parents smoked around her and her siblings from birth and none of them smoked.

I knew friends that came from smoke free homes that ended up smoking.

I don't know what all that means statistically, but there are some stats.

[misantroll]

4000 chemicals with the real cigs
maybe 1 to 2 with the e-cig
welle just rest in peace bb
REST IN PEACE

[QueenInNC]

Wait, aren't you the person who started this thread, because you were worried about the vapor from e-cigs? Have you checked their nail polish and removers for toluene? Granted, it doesn't create any of that telltale "smoke," but trust me, it's one helluva chemical.

Yes, it was me. I have never checked any of the chemicals in nail polish remover. Crazy right? It is legal, they sell it on a shelf, so I roll with it. And even take the girls with me to the stinky nail salon. I am sure none of it is good for them. But with vaping being something new that I have control over, I want to be as cautious as possible. I was vaping in a different room, but I would never have smoked in a different room, only outside. I have decided that my vaping habits should be just like my smoking habits. Outside and hidden. That will limit how much I vape also. Everone was out of the house earlier and I stood at the stove with the fan on and vaped there. I didn't feel like much harm could have been done that way...

[mrl]

I am the same, but not just with kids. At work I always go outside to vape, don't want to expose anyone to the fumes lol

[Lithium1330]

I only brought it up because as far as I know.. despite the fact that less and less people are smoking....cancer and respiratory diseases are still growing, I think people should be thinking far more about why and what else could be the reason.

Air Polution! that is a real killer maybe a lot of problems caused by air polution are being attributed to tobacco smoke by organizations like WHO.

Perhaps, maybe now we are understanding why anti-smoker don't want anything that resembles a tobacco product (specially in Europe), this nice cilinders with a cool LED on the tip attrac kids atention... just a thought...

I have always thought that the design of this devices most to be rebamped in something far from the look of a real tobacco product, but a lot of people want that "real" look so bad, devices like the screwdriver and the jantystick have a very big potential against the actual "cool high tech toy" looking that makes kids so curious, but... again... a lot of people just want a "cigarette" for "smoke" that looks like the real thing

[Bman]

I have a 15 and 16 year old. They know that vaping is a much better alternative that analogs. Anyhow, my 16 year old got acne on his face a lot worse than normal. We have been trying to figure out why. My DSE901 broke an I ordered a Screwdriver, so I have been smoking analogs for about 2 weeks now. During this time my sons acne cleared up. Coincidence?

I e-smoke VG from Johnson Creek.

[ZambucaLu]

B,

I didn't read this whole thread but it might be of interest to you:

e cigrattes the mist casue acne on face?

Lu

[QueenInNC]

I have a 15 and 16 year old. They know that vaping is a much better alternative that analogs. Anyhow, my 16 year old got acne on his face a lot worse than normal. We have been trying to figure out why. My DSE901 broke an I ordered a Screwdriver, so I have been smoking analogs for about 2 weeks now. During this time my sons acne cleared up. Coincidence?

I e-smoke VG from Johnson Creek.

Oh, wow!! That is definitely something to think about!!

[Momof3]

Wow, where do all your kids go to school? I took it outside and into hiding long before I even had kids and still DS came home from school in 1st grade crying about me dying because of my "drug use". My kids, nieces and nephews all know about and support my e-cig use. They don't think they are toys, but they do think they are cool. Not as something they ever want to try, but as something to keep me and hopefully other family members off analogs.

My 1st e-cig was bought solely to help me survive an essentially non-smoking trip with the extended family. After we were home and it was misplaced, I went back to analogs. My kids encouraged me to get another one. I always smoked outside, I often vape inside. IMHO it's safer. They are exposed to far more concentrated pollution when we're riding our bikes or in the car. This way, mom's always there. No need to step outside.

We've talked about addictions in general and smoking and nicotine in particular. In my experience hiding it would just make them more curious and add a hard to resist forbidden aspect. I think I'm pretty good at keeping my stuff put up, but what if I dropped a little bottle of chocolate, strawberry or whatever. Better that my kids are aware of what it is and that it's dangerous rather than "Hey look, that stuff Mom doesn't want us to know about." Then they'd mess with it for sure.

Really, where do you all send your kids to school? At least twice a year my "drug use" gets dredged up because of some assembly. It's quite aggravating.

[Spikey]

Dunno about kids, but my cat always used to leave the room in disgust when I lit up a smoke. Vaping doesn't seem to bother her at all. I'm not saying that means that it's safe, just providing a bit of data from a nose far more sensitive than our own.

Do a forum search on cats and PG. I heard they took PG out of cat food cause cats were having kidney failure from PG. I vape around my dog (who has bronchial probs and coughed all the time from analog smoke) and he is fine with the vapor... but until some more thorough studies are done on second hand vapor.. I will NOT vape in a room with my niece and nephew (3 mos and 2 years).

If you watch the way the "vapor" settles you would realize it floats down cause it is heavier than smoke. I worry about that. I do think that if we realize how people inhale that it is highly unlikely the person in the room is inhaling much vapor (even when it gets cloudy) as people usually inhale through the nose and the nasal hairs seem likely to catch some of the "particles" in the moisture from the vapor.

I have read the posts that there is no measurable significant levels of nic in the exhaled vapor... but cannlt remember if that was based on a study or someone's opinion lol