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Thread: Nearing disaster in New York - please take action NOW to prevent e-cigarette ban.

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    New thread on "Next Steps" for NY ban bill:

    New york sales ban next steps

    The same as new CASAA NY Call to Action page:

    CASAA.org

    In case anyone's wondering WHY I still have the SD as my sig, it's because I got my first ecig in January 2008 but still smoked for 10 months, until I got my first SD. I have other APVs, but also still love and use my SD (with a Bulli on top). I will be forever grateful to Trog for saving my life!

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    I urge all to send those faxes. The legislatures rarely actually read the letters themelves but there are staff members whose job it is to read those faxes and send out responding correspondence even if it is a form letter and/or email. The legislators are given a tally of those for and against bills before votes along with a summary of the concerns expressed by their constituents who are against bills or why they are in favor of it. There are bills that the legislators are very well informed about and others, like this one, that most have absolutely NO personally information and knowledge of.

    IF AT ALL POSSIBLE GET THAT FACE TO FACE MEETING with your legislator. Show them an e-cig and tell them what it really is and does. Extremely few of these legislators have the slightest idea what an electronic cigarette actually is or is not. Most only have the media information they may have heard or seen to go by. If that media information is all they have, it only makes sense they would vote to approve this measure. Best meeting is actually WITH the legislator BUT making a favorable impression on their staff about the importance of voting NO on this bill IS important because many legislators DO rely heavily on what their staff's recommendations are on bills they themselves have little information about.
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    We should all pitch in and start sending these people our spare kits and point them here for questions.. Maybe some will switch to vaping and that is one way they will learn about it. Many may not smoke but I am sure they have loved ones that do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmato5 View Post
    I urge all to send those faxes. The legislatures rarely actually read the letters themelves but there are staff members whose job it is to read those faxes and send out responding correspondence even if it is a form letter and/or email. The legislators are given a tally of those for and against bills before votes along with a summary of the concerns expressed by their constituents who are against bills or why they are in favor of it. There are bills that the legislators are very well informed about and others, like this one, that most have absolutely NO personally information and knowledge of.

    IF AT ALL POSSIBLE GET THAT FACE TO FACE MEETING with your legislator. Show them an e-cig and tell them what it really is and does. Extremely few of these legislators have the slightest idea what an electronic cigarette actually is or is not. Most only have the media information they may have heard or seen to go by. If that media information is all they have, it only makes sense they would vote to approve this measure. Best meeting is actually WITH the legislator BUT making a favorable impression on their staff about the importance of voting NO on this bill IS important because many legislators DO rely heavily on what their staff's recommendations are on bills they themselves have little information about.
    Have you spoken to your legislator yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by placebo effect View Post
    have you spoken to your legislator yet?
    roflmfao!!!!

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    Ha ha ha, good one!
    ecig addict

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    Default Okay, this is NY right?

    NY Strategy: 1. Retain Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, or a firm of equal caliber if Cravath has a conflict or is otherwise unwilling; 2. Have the firm write a position memorandum for industry and public consumption; 3. Have the firm inform the necessary legislators and executive of preparations for a Declaratory Judgment Action and Motion for Preliminary and Permanent Injunctions. 4. Proceed to litigation if necessary.

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    I don't fully understand all of that , but I'm pretty sure you're saying that electronic cigarettes should get themselves a lawyer and get that lawyer to carve them a legitimate place for themselves once and for all.

    If so, I'm all for it, and I'd be happy to assist in lining the lawyer's pocket to see that it happens.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sheepherder View Post
    NY Strategy: 1. Retain Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, or a firm of equal caliber if Cravath has a conflict or is otherwise unwilling; 2. Have the firm write a position memorandum for industry and public consumption; 3. Have the firm inform the necessary legislators and executive of preparations for a Declaratory Judgment Action and Motion for Preliminary and Permanent Injunctions. 4. Proceed to litigation if necessary.
    I know you're not interested in providing us services, but can you give a three-sentence explanation of what the basis for our preliminary injunction would be?

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