Analog vs E-cig "feeling"

[Kitabz]

Originally Posted by booboo

I know my temper is on a much shorter fuse and just about everything threatens to push me over the edge..... After 3 months, I don't think it's cig withdrawal anymore...

Glad it's not just me, I was banging my desk drawer the other day because it was sticky - this is just so not usual for me, I used to be very calm (possibly thanks to 30 camels a day).

And my colleague's very loud typing is really driving me insane (I have to listen to music with headphones because I just want to break her keyboard in half).

Oddly, I'm having to shave more frequently also so I'm wondering if there's a hormonal component to all of this...

[krewblink]

Havent Had these feelings yet. But I just feel that Analogs make me feel yucky, I cant even run a lap without weezing and gasping for air, And im only 21 years old! I hate having to Spray Tons of cologne on to cover up the cig smell. But i feel like The E-Cig By far beats Analogs any day. Hmm No cancer Or cancer? U pick

[kender]

Propylene glycol isshown to increase beta activity (changes found in anxiety states) when inhaled. (The Medical Post Sept 27, 1994.)

Maybe a change from PG to VG would help

[OutWest]

i think part of it is the additives in cigarettes. For example, one additive in analog cigs is valerian root extract (essentially the natural form of valium).

[Bellinghamster]

Originally Posted by KittyBurn

Does anyone notice that an analog is a more mellow feeling than an e-cig. I sometimes find that the ecig rather than calming me like a real cig did it can sometimes make me more anxious and more like a pure hit of nicotine, sorta like the patch can do, teeth grinding and all.

Anyone with similar experiences?

Yes, yes, yes! I don't know what it is [and it *could* just be dosage, but I doubt it as I've been experimenting], but there is a real difference here. 30 seconds of using the e-cig, my heart starts pounding [not alarmingly so, but weird], and I feel kinda strung out, jittery, trouble sleeping, etc. I've also been fooling around wih Commit lozenges, occassionaly using them for the first 1/2 of the day insead of e-cigs and I get *very* similar effects.

I smoked additive-free analogs, so I'm not sure if there was a chemical produced in combustion that was "mellowing" the nicotine, but it certainly is a different effect - e-cigs feel more "medicinal" to me.

The nicotine withdrawal is being treated quite well for me with e-cigs, and the "smoking" action is superb - enough to keep me off analogs for the foreseeable future. I really miss the relaxing effect, but I'm trying to balance that against all the benefits.

[kender]

OutWest
That would deffinally have a calming effect. I'm going to have to find more info on that.
I'm on the Pillbox Marlboro flavor and just starting to realize how bad cigs taste. Funny how that works.

[outofstep]

The first day I started vaping, I vaped like crazy and felt very mellow. Propylene Glycol in high enough doses will have similar effects to alcohol. This may have been why.

"Propylene glycol causes CNS depression similar to that causedby ethanol but it is only one-third as potent."

"Acute: Depression of the CNS may appear as drowsiness, stupor, and rarely ascoma."

Propylene glycol (PIM 443)

[DCrist721]

Analogs have other drugs in them the contribute to the high that you get from smoking them, and also contribute to the addiction. Nicotine itself is not a chemically addictive substance.

Because e-cigs lack these other drugs and only contain nicotine, most people end up using much higher doses of nicotine then they should because they're trying to get the same feeling as smoking an analog.

However, since their intake of nicotine is now much higher then it was when they were smoking analogs, they are experiencing more of the negative side-effects associated with nicotine and stimulants, such as hyperness, grinding teeth, anxiety, short temper, etc.

E-cigs have a long way to go before they start accurately replicating all of the effects that you normally get from an analog high, and until then, people will continue using more nicotine then they normally would (if smoking analogs) because they're trying to replicate that feeling, so they will also continue to experience the negative effects.

Outofstep: That is some interesting information. If PG is 1/3 the potency of ethanol, then that means the PG is nearly as potent as 80 proof liquor like vodka, rum, etc.

[Rio Fantastic]

Originally Posted by DCrist721

Analogs have other drugs in them the contribute to the high that you get from smoking them, and also contribute to the addiction. Nicotine itself is not a chemically addictive substance.

Because e-cigs lack these other drugs and only contain nicotine, most people end up using much higher doses of nicotine then they should because they're trying to get the same feeling as smoking an analog.

However, since their intake of nicotine is now much higher then it was when they were smoking analogs, they are experiencing more of the negative side-effects associated with nicotine and stimulants, such as hyperness, grinding teeth, anxiety, short temper, etc.

E-cigs have a long way to go before they start accurately replicating all of the effects that you normally get from an analog high, and until then, people will continue using more nicotine then they normally would (if smoking analogs) because they're trying to replicate that feeling, so they will also continue to experience the negative effects.

Outofstep: That is some interesting information. If PG is 1/3 the potency of ethanol, then that means the PG is nearly as potent as 80 proof liquor like vodka, rum, etc.

Are you stupid? Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances known to man. I think the phenomena posters here are experiencing may be explained by the properties of nicotine itself - in small doses its a stimulant and in high doses its a depressant. So if you smoked a lot of cigarettes but smoke less of your E-cig, then you may be just feeling the stimulation. Then when you smoke lots of your E-cig, you feel mellow.