Manufacturers/Suppliers: What's in your cartridges?

[trog100]

i use silicone tubing quite lot.. u can literally put a flame to it and watch it glow red hot.. its dosnt melt simples crumbles away..

the stuff in all the carts (not ruyan) i have certainly aint silicone.. being as most of us are none ruyan users for obvious reasons we can assume its not stuff that dosnt melt or burn.. we know it does..

but i have never had any show signs of melting or burning or shrinking unless it get prodded or packed down.. something thats very easy to do..

sometime certain atomizers send the end of the wool blackish.. this discoloration has to come up (leech) from the wire gauze surrounding the pot.. its seems more common with the the dse901 mini atomizers i have..

one thing i am sure of.. the little mini atomizers that produce lots of smoke are more likely to burn things than the bigger classic or pipe ones.. the heat needed to generate xxx amount of smoke all being contained in a much smaller area must mean higher heater coil (or localized) temps..

i still think bigger is better but the world dosnt so smaller they get..

trog

[RatInDaHat]

wonder if boiling an atomizer would damage it

[trog100]

wonder if boiling an atomizer would damage it

i doubt it would.. nothing much in there to get damaged.. it might even be a good idea.. as long as its one that dosnt have the switch in it.. i wouldnt boil that..

trog

[sanneke]

wonder if boiling an atomizer would damage it

Why do you want to boil your aromizer?

Want to clean it?

That's simple,

Run it under hot water, put little dishwash liquid in there, rinse out really good.
Shake the water out, and dry it with a hairdryer.
Wait for about 30 min, and the atomizer will be as new.

I do it maybe every 3 days.
Works like a charm.

[RatInDaHat]

of course. just a pen or mini style atomizer.. i'll experiment tonight. Let you all know the results.

[squeezes]

It is done by the NZ group...and it is sponsored by Ruyan ....it was sometimes ago...below is the website link...you do need Acrobat Adobe to read it though....
http://www.healthnz.co.nz/Portland2008ECIG.pdf

Take your time to read it..or maybe you have seen it before??
Hope it is what you want TB....

It´s just an analysis of chemicals and risk of infections. Not a single word about impact on health

From this report I take "A scan of the vapourised mist from the ecigarette is required to check what else has been vapourised." I'm a complete ignorant in terms of chemical reactions but an ignition means a change in its composition. In other words, I care about what I'm actually inhaling not the liquid itself.

Just to be complete: you did also get this one along Bob?

http://www.healthnz.co.nz/2ndSafetyReport_9Apr08.pdf

(better put the file on your computer somewhere: they are shifting those things around in New Zealand, Portland 1 is allready a 404...)

This one is curious. First thing you can read is "Ruyan® e-cigarette Interim Report". At the company that I work for an Interim Report means "you spread it and you're fired". Why is it widely available on the internet ? :roll: Is it because its so flattering with Ruyan properties?

Then ithere are some "high level" scientific conclusions that makes me wonder if it's written by unbiased doctors...
"So if two smokers both switch to Ruyan® e-cigarettes from the beginning, or otherwise succeed in quitting smoking, then 13 life years will be reclaimed."

[trog100]

whilst u cant too much faith in the good squeezes its signifcant that so far nothing bad has shown up.. i am sure it soon will when the bias swings the other way..

trog

[TropicalBob]

nothing bad has shown up

.. that we know of. What we don't know could fill a library. As has been said many times, the jury is very much still out on this practice.

[trog100]

very true bob but i know my bronchial bits and bobs said a good honest thank you to me when i made the swop.. but yesterday i felt a little sick with an odd unfamiliar stomache ache..

i put down my e pipe and went back to rolls ups for the rest of the day.. they now taste pretty bad and oddly enough the e pipe tastes better.. the sick feeling passed probably nothing to do with my e pipe.. but my suspicions are there..

it really needs some time to pass before the real truth will be known.. years i think.. the data needs to be gathered from long term e smokers.. i see no other valid way of doing it.. we are the lab rats.. its us the results will come from..

the other thing i noted was my dry throat never went away after a few none e smoke hours.. real cigs now taste awful.. are my taste buds growing back.. he he

trog

ps.. i thought (assumed) my nasty cough was down to long term permanent damage.. it seems it wasnt.. it was down to the daily irritation of too many roll-ups.. a good thought to be honest..

[RatInDaHat]

so the atomizer survived boiling, except for some of the paint on the outside. Regardless, it didn't smoke any better afterwards. Just figured i'd let you all know.