Manufacturers/Suppliers: What's in your cartridges?

[iSTRONG]

The way I see it, less fiber will hold less liquid.
More fiber holds more liquid.

if you take all the packing out of a cart, i guarantee it will contain more liquid when full than if there is fiber in there.

How about thinking of it like this:
Take 2 sponges, 1 twice the size of the first. Which one will hold more water?

Cinderella, I'm afraid you're wrong there.

Vc= Volume of contrainer
Vm= Volume of liquid
Vf = Volume of fiber

At maximum capacity,
Vc = Vm + Vf

The way to maximise the volume of liquid in a container is to have nothing in the container. Liquids are not compressable.
In other words, if you have a sponge that 100cm^3, it won't sock up less than 100cm^3 of water.

So the more fiber you have in a cartridges, the space there is for the liquid itself.

[NerdyCinderella]

Actually iStrong, I didn’t draw a conclusion nor did I intend to.
I just wanted to inject an idea into the working logic of the discussion.
It’s beyond my scientific knowledge.

[sanneke]

Actually iStrong, I didn’t draw a conclusion nor did I intend to.
I just wanted to inject an idea into the working logic of the discussion.
It’s beyond my scientific knowledge.

That's okay Cindy.

iStrong explained what I was trying to explain.......

[trog100]

he he he.. a bigger sponge will hold more liquid than a smaller sponge but not when compressed to a similar size.. it will hold less.. a sponge will only hold so much liquid.. too little sponge in a cart wont hold as much as a cart nicely filled with uncompressed sponge..

so the sponge in the cart has to fill the cart but not be overly compressed.. packing more sponge in a cart will not under any circumstances hold more liquid.. nicely full but not compressed is the ideal..

i think these things are machine filled.. the hard bit looks to me like melted wool (plastic/polyester) material.. i think its part of a hot injection process caused by the method used to get the wool (plastic foam) in the carts..

my e cig pipe carts dont have the hard bits.. the minis and classic carts do.. the pillbox 901 mini carts i have dont have it either..

whilst it does make it harder to get the wool out of the carts i dont think it has any other downsides.. lets just assume until proven otherwise the stuff is nasty cheap horrible plastic stuff the same as in any cheap pillow..

trog

[quirky]

Silicone adhesive Trog. At least this is true in my NJoy and e-cig carts. The super cig carts actually appear to use latex (or derivative). I hope not as some people are allergic to latex.

[NerdyCinderella]

That's okay Cindy.
iStrong explained what I was trying to explain.......

Well iSrong

Thanks sanneke - lol

trog, what would we do without you!

[trog100]

a pic of some e-pipe foam.. i still think it parts of a hot injection process but aint sure.. what makes u think its silicone adhesive quirky.. ?? i would like to see how the things are made..

ignore the little brown bits.. its contamination off my workbench..



trog

ps.. the forum software has cut the pic in half its twice the width in reality..

link to full size image..

http://www.cavecom.com/pics/pifo.jpg

i am gonna try melting some without direct flame..

[quirky]

I think it is silicone because it has the same texture and consistency as caulk- it stretches! Although I confess, it could be a lot of things!

[trog100]

a pic after melting.. it looks very similar to some pillow stuffing i did the same with..

the e liquid combusts before the filling fully melts.. i dont know the exact temp cos i never measured it.. to put into meaningful terms lets say it would combust if dripped onto a hot car exhaust.. so dont chuck a bottle on yer car engine.. he he



trog

ps.. that whats left of pipe cart..

[leaford]

I don't have any problem believing .......... cartirdges are polyester, or Njoy, Janty, etc. But the New Zealand report said Ruyan uses some sort of silicon gel. Could someone who has an original Ruyan cartridge try burning it?