Manufacturers/Suppliers: What's in your cartridges?

[UncleMidriff]

Manufacturers:
As a person who gives you money so I can take your stuff, vaporize it, and inhale directly into my lungs, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to want to know what your cartridges are made of.

I'm not asking for your secret nic-liquid recipe or anything like that, but I do want to have a general idea of what I'm inhaling. This includes the cartridges themselves, not just the liquid, e.g., what is the membrane (as NJoy calls it) that holds the nic-liquid made of? If you tell me your cartridges contain a propylene glycol solution containing nicotine plus some food-grade flavoring agents delivered via an all-natural cotton membrane, I'd like more information, but I'd probably be fine with that. If, however, your cartridges contain pig-pee-soaked polyester of death, I'll take my business elsewhere.

Sure, you could lie, but we'd find out about it eventually, and then you'd lose most, if not all, of your business. Remember, your stuff emulates smoking tobacco cigarettes, and it doesn't even do that great a job of it. One of the only things your product has going for it is that it is supposedly a healthier alternative. If it is just as dangerous or more so to use your products, we can always go back to the Real Thing.

Suppliers:
I understand that it'll be more difficult for you to get a hold of this information than it will be for the people who actually make the cartridges. But this is a big deal to me, and to lots of other people, I'm sure. It's a big enough deal that I'm planning to go with whatever manufacturer/supplier can give me the most complete information about what is in their cartridges, even if that manufacturer/supplier charges significantly more for their cartridges (I'm looking at you, NJoy). In other words, I am willing to pay a premium for this kind of peace of mind.

Is anyone else with me, or am I just being paranoid?

[RatInDaHat]

I was thinking the same thing..

Very curious about the packing material as well.

-Dusty-

[TropicalBob]

That's a completely rational request that deserves complete answers.

[dnakr]

Is anyone else with me, or am I just being paranoid?

How devastating would it be to all of us knowing that we went into this as a way to improve our health, only to find that the fibre they are using will still kill us.

[NerdyCinderella]

Again let me bring up the possiblity of having samples of the cartridge material and the eliquid analyzed at a lab ourselves.
If we could find out that the cost was within our means we could take up a collection and have the answers to our concerns.
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[UncleMidriff]

Cindy:

That is certainly an excellent idea. At least, the possibility of it should be enough to keep whoever answers this request honest.

[TropicalBob]

Trog or Karen could post the question on the E-Cig forum. You need someone not banned (me). The Janty guy can answer for Ruyan here, as can the Greencig guy.

[Smokester!]

The contents of the cartridges I sell are as described in Smokey Joes post:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/php...tion--t20.html

I have contacted the manufacturer asking what the core is made of.

I'd like to point out that I am an e-smoker first and supplier second and my health comes before anything else (which was the whole point of me e-smoking!!!) so as soon as I know, you'll know.

btw...I think the whole getting cores tested would be a great idea. I'll look into that possibility too. Any ideas of what sort of tests exactly would be required?

[dnakr]

I emailed Ludo from RuyanXpress and asked him about the tissue inside of the Janty cartridge and here is a break down of the emails to me:

The heat that reaches the cartridge tissue is 60°C and the tissue is NOT polyester.

I do not have the exact chemical composition of the tissues used in e-cigarettes, there’s also the “confidentiality rule”... We can’t post everything in public because our adversaries would steal it.

In the meanwhile please refer to http://www.healthnz.co.nz/coynews.htm

The discussion should spin towards the new zeeland rapport, that’s fact and figures. The forum could also write to them and ask for a report on the tissue :-)

Rachel

[NerdyCinderella]

Thanks Smokester for the Smokey_Joe's link. I didn't know it existed.

Browsing some of his links I see we would need another analysis after the laboratory one. We'd need a doctor of some sought to analyze the effects of inhaling this stuff - different I assume than digesting these ingredients.

Unless the ingredients are similar to the evaluations cited by TropicalBob. I believe TB gave us links to analyses conducted in New Zealand (?).