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    The plume is least important to me, it's the ritual of doing something that isn't strenuous hand to mouth, then TH then flavor and most importantly the liberation I feel.


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    Just sitting here thinking about this thread and the replies so far and wondering how to phrase what I want to say. There are so many aspects of this to consider. Is it the nicotine? Is it the vapor? Is it the ACT of vaping?

    I'm not really sure what it's all about. I've only been vaping a couple months so I'm no expert. I do know I enjoy a nice vapor plume. If something isn't right and vapor production is poor, well I gotta change something. But I assume the nicotine has to be part of it as well. How addicted to nicotine am I? I don't know. I didn't know when I smoked either. When I switched to vaping I was smoking about 12 cigs a day(give or take). But as a smoker I wasn't really concerned with the amount of smoke that was exhaled after each puff. Never really thought about it. But as a vaper, that is now a concern. I don't know if I could get by with 0mg juice, haven't tried yet. I'm still trying to find my "sweet spot" with nic level, flavors, PG/VG, etc., as well as devices.

    I do agree with OP in that the gum and patches and such aren't for me. Tried gum for awhile but - no go. I don't want to chew gum all day long. And yes, I did miss the hand-to-mouth thing. Drugs were out of the question considering the horrible side effects, sickness, and countless other bad things they cause. Have you ever listened to the disclaimer on the TV ads? It's longer than the actual description of the drug itself!

    I do know that I devote much, much more time to vaping, and all that's involved with it, than I ever did with smoking. On the internet, placing orders, DIY stuff, changing devices, charging batteries.... Oh, and hours and hours on ECF! I hope this calms down. Can't really see devoting this much time to this one activity. Seems to eclipse everything else. It's an addiction in itself.

    Well, I've gone off on too many tangents at this point. Don't even know if I stayed on topic. Hopefully this doesn't come off as some left-field rant.








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    Its different things at different times

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    Awesome replies.


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    Are there more aspects of vaping I'm "addicted" to than when I was smoking, or simply more that I enjoy?

    In American society at least, with all our puritanical foundations, it seems you are only allowed so much fun/enjoyment with something less it be labelled "addictive" behavior, or otherwise "bad."

    Hobbies are not addictions, learning is cool, and communicating w. people w. common interests is healthy.

    The nic and hand-to-mouth addictions are no longer endangering our well-being or anyone else's, so I call it a draw.

    Now, the glassy-eyed glee with which we press that Submit Order button and sprint to our mailboxes - ok, might be some psychopathology there, lol...

    Otherwise, vape the frak on.
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    For me it's the nic, the vapor, the hundreds of flavors, the mod collection, the atty collection, building coils, stalking the mailman. I will be honest, I have an addictive personality. Has it caused any grief to myself or others in my family ? Absolutely not. I would say it's a fun new hobby
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    I'm a big believer in the strongest factor keeping people hooked on cigarettes is habitual behavior.

    I've mentioned a couple of times in posts something similar to this: the hand to mouth gesture, the hit at the back of the throat, the feel of the air bristling past the lips, the plume of smoke/vapor drifting around in front of your face culminates to the 'addiction' or habit of smoking.

    The depression when quitting nicotine is what enforces it.

    I've quit smoking a couple of times and genuinely enjoyed the experience. Yet some how after a couple of weeks when the nicotine is long gone from my system I've gone back to smoking... why?

    I believe it's because I'm too strongly accustomed to the smoking habit.




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    Been on my mind since I started.

    Comes down to this for me while.I have a widely fun time playing with toys, DIY and the plethora of liquid creations if they were all to go I would soon return to smoking.

    Why?

    Well while I enjoy vaping facts are that is now how I feed my nicotine addiction.

    Stopped smoking but still a nic addict.

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    To tell you the truth, I don't over analyze why I vape. The last time I had any thought on the matter was when I lit my last cigarette and had to put it out because I started to gag. When it happened, I had to sit down and process the moment that freed me from the smoking anchor of cigarettes. And yes, I cried for joy. That was 15 months ago and have gone down from 24 mg of nic to 6 mg and sometimes 0 mg.

    My body has detoxed most of the vestiges of the additives in cigarettes. I don't have to use a CPAP machine at night so I can breathe and don't toss and turn. On the contrary, I sleep all night. I can walk farther and climb stairs without getting winded. My apartment and car smell clean.

    I don't lose sleep because I vape and what others may think of me because I do. The question of whether I'm addicted to anything (including nicotine) doesn't even enter my mind nor does it mentally affect me in any way. I vape because I love the flavors, and to me, that is no more an "addiction" as people munching on breath mints or candy throughout the day.
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    Gum and patch don't provide almost instantaneous head-rush in one 5 second hit that vaping does.

    It's like a .... addict going from smoking it to wearing a slow delivery over time patch. Doubt they'd get the same experience.

    For me with vaping I know for sure it's that 'ping' in my dopamine reward system that I enjoy and I'm not afraid to admit it - I enjoy getting high of nicotine vapor and I used to enjoy smoking only difference is that vaping leaves me feeling much more healthy and less fatigued and is cheaper and has more flavors. Mostly it's the fitness benefits that make it preferable to smoking though.

    I'm still an addict and won't pretend I'm not, Just this addiction doesn't make me feel like I'm twenty years older than I actually am and I look years younger since I stopped the smokes and went on the vape every time, better facial sking tone, better muscle tone, no black sputum coughed up in the shower.

    It's still a stimulant addiction though, let's not kid ourselves, just a healthier one IMO / IME
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