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    Hi all,

    I just purchased this little unit and would like to get some thoughts from you about it (maybe someone that has it too).
    http://www.steamecig.com/wp-content/...M-1-manual.pdf
    I think it may be manufactured by SmokTech, one button menu, 6 month manufacturer warranty.
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    the other 2 are there for size comparison (left: Evod 650mAh VV with Kanger mini PT, right: Innokin iTaste SVD VV/VW with Kanger PT)

    alright now....lemme have it



    (didn't see a section for this in "mod specific", if needed please move)
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    this is an awesome mod. cant tell you much about it but my local vape shop carries them and so far they're a great hit
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    I personally think it's a very nice device and thanx for the heads up

    Keep up the good vape!
    since 6/26/2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanckz View Post
    I just purchased this little unit and would like to get some thoughts from you about it (maybe someone that has it too).


    alright now....lemme have it

    It's funny meanckz, I saw this mod somewhere on the net in the last few days and thought it looked interesting. Of course I don't have one, but I did notice something about the battery in the spec sheet.

    It's a Samsung ICR18650-26F. The 'ICR' in the model name means it's got ICR chemistry. These are the batteries that go boom when they're shorted or seriously over-driven or over charged. They do say they have battery protection built into the device, but for me that's not good enough. I wouldn't use these batteries. Panasonic NCR18650PD or PF are the ones I would buy for this.

    Other than that, it looks great and I wish you the best of luck with it!

    Vape happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryedan View Post
    It's funny meanckz, I saw this mod somewhere on the net in the last few days and thought it looked interesting. Of course I don't have one, but I did notice something about the battery in the spec sheet.

    It's a Samsung ICR18650-26F. The 'ICR' in the model name means it's got ICR chemistry. These are the batteries that go boom when they're shorted or seriously over-driven or over charged. They do say they have battery protection built into the device, but for me that's not good enough. I wouldn't use these batteries. Panasonic NCR18650PD or PF are the ones I would buy for this.

    Other than that, it looks great and I wish you the best of luck with it!

    Vape happy

    oops...what to do with those batteries?...it does come with a supposedly 'safe' auto-cut-off no-name charger

    Keep up the good vape!
    since 6/26/2013

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    Being that I was not familiar with neither the batteries nor the charger in question I went researching:

    Battery: Samsung 2600mAh ICR18650-26F

    I often use the flashlight forums to find battery information (as do many others) as they take their batteries as seriously as we do in e-cig mods. Things that I found at CandlePowerForums.com:

    • ICR18650-26F is a mixed Co/Ni/Mn cathode. Having manganese (mn) in the chemistry makes this a safer chemistry hybrid battery, and not just an ICR battery.

    • "I don't know enough about both chemistries to answer all of your questions. However I will say that generally speaking cells with nickle and manganese are often regarded as being "safer." "




    Based on the above info, it appears to me that the Samsung ICR18650-26F in question is similar battery chemistry to the Panasonic NCR18650PF (LiNiCOMnO2) INR/ICR/IMR 2900mAh hybrid, but with a little less mAh capacity. This should be a decent battery safe to use in a regulated mod. However, I have to admit I've seen no reference of this battery being a "high drain" battery; but since the chemistry is similar to the Panasonic PF I'm assuming that it is.
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    The HG-106Li charger though is a different story. This is a cheap inexpensive charger of around $5 - 9. Being that you generally get what you pay for I would not suggest using this charger for e-cig batteries. The instruction manual even states that it could take 6 hours to charge an 18650 battery. According to some bench testing done by folks at CandlePowerForums there appears to be some variance in manufacturing quality/consistancy with reports of over-discharge of batteries and variances in voltage of fully charged batteries. - resource link KD all-in-one charger

    I would not use this charger myself. Spend some money on a decent Xtar or Nitecore Intellicharger to replace the HG charger.

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    I handled this model at a new B & M in my neck of the woods. I didn't use it but I can say it felt very solid. The machining of the threads was very nice. I'm not a fan of "one-button" menu set-ups but other than the Vamo, that seems to be the norm on most APV's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baditude View Post
    • ICR18650-26F is a mixed Co/Ni/Mn cathode. Having manganese (mn) in the chemistry makes this a safer chemistry hybrid battery, and not just an ICR battery.

    • "I don't know enough about both chemistries to answer all of your questions. However I will say that generally speaking cells with nickle and manganese are often regarded as being "safer." "




    Based on the above info, it appears to me that the Samsung ICR18650-26F in question is similar battery chemistry to the Panasonic NCR18650PF (LiNiCOMnO2) INR/ICR/IMR 2900mAh hybrid, but with a little less mAh capacity. This should be a decent battery safe to use in a regulated mod. However, I have to admit I've seen no reference of this battery being a "high drain" battery; but since the chemistry is similar to the Panasonic PF I'm assuming that it is.
    ___________________________________

    The HG-106Li charger though is a different story. This is a cheap inexpensive battery of around $5 - 9. Being that you generally get what you pay for I would not suggest using this charger for e-cig batteries. The instruction manual even states that it could take 6 hours to charge an 18650 battery. According to some bench testing done by folks at CandlePowerForums there appears to be some variance in manufacturing quality/consistancy with reports of over-discharge of batteries and variances in voltage of fully charged batteries. - resource link KD all-in-one charger

    I would not use this charger myself. Spend some money on a decent Xtar or Nitecore Intellicharger to replace the HG charger.
    Thanks for the research and insight into that battery Bad! I didn't know that and the 'ICR' in the model name worried me

    meanckz, I apologize for the scare. I really try not to do that, but I didn't find the data Bad did.

    Now, get a decent charger and then tell us all about how great that vape is !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baditude View Post
    Being that I was not familiar with neither the batteries nor the charger in question I went researching:

    Battery: Samsung 2600mAh ICR18650-26F

    I often use the flashlight forums to find battery information (as do many others) as they take their batteries as seriously as we do in e-cig mods. Things that I found at CandlePowerForums.com:

    • ICR18650-26F is a mixed Co/Ni/Mn cathode. Having manganese (mn) in the chemistry makes this a safer chemistry hybrid battery, and not just an ICR battery.

    • "I don't know enough about both chemistries to answer all of your questions. However I will say that generally speaking cells with nickle and manganese are often regarded as being "safer." "




    Based on the above info, it appears to me that the Samsung ICR18650-26F in question is similar battery chemistry to the Panasonic NCR18650PF (LiNiCOMnO2) INR/ICR/IMR 2900mAh hybrid, but with a little less mAh capacity. This should be a decent battery safe to use in a regulated mod. However, I have to admit I've seen no reference of this battery being a "high drain" battery; but since the chemistry is similar to the Panasonic PF I'm assuming that it is.
    ___________________________________

    The HG-106Li charger though is a different story. This is a cheap inexpensive battery of around $5 - 9. Being that you generally get what you pay for I would not suggest using this charger for e-cig batteries. The instruction manual even states that it could take 6 hours to charge an 18650 battery. According to some bench testing done by folks at CandlePowerForums there appears to be some variance in manufacturing quality/consistancy with reports of over-discharge of batteries and variances in voltage of fully charged batteries. - resource link KD all-in-one charger

    I would not use this charger myself. Spend some money on a decent Xtar or Nitecore Intellicharger to replace the HG charger.
    WOW! awesome info! Thank you very Baditude, I was ready to chuck those batteries, and I got a Nitecore Intellicharger en route.
    I really really appreciate this info....it's bookmarked and hopefully I can pass it on to the next person that has questions about this device's batteries.
    I would have never thought to check out flashlight forums, until vaping I had never seen these flat top batteries before.


    It 'dinged' again, didn't it
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    Unrelated, for which I am sorry, but how do you like the EVOD?

    That's a sleek mod, by the by.
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