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    I'm not gonna defend or denounce what a shopkeeper does with pricing, I'll just say that the consumers will vote with their wallets. You can't teach everyone to be a smart shopper, and you can't tell a business owner that he's overcharging - you can only NOT shop there, and tell your friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cearamm View Post
    Hey guys. So here I am 3 weeks ago, looking to get a nice setup for my birthday present, right? I figure a hundred bucks shuld get me and my fiancee set up with plenty of juice and a couple ego style kits. Since I was really not sure where to start, I ventured over to the only vape house in town to get set up. Well to my surprise....they had a ton of stuff buuuuut....seemed REAL pricey.
    Immediately I was like, you know I could find this stuff online for a LITTLE cheaper.

    Boy was I wrong . Headed home and hopped online to shop around. Found Evod starter kits were about 35 bucks....huh?! The vape shop wanted $89.99 for a frikin Evod starter kit with no juice included.

    Now trust me, I own a business and understand profit margins. But when you get Evods at wholesale for probably 20-25 bucks TOPS....you cannot and should not hawk them off to unsuspecting smokers who dont know any better and are trying to make a life saving decision for 300% profit!!! Am I out of line here? An iTaste SVD for 225? Whaaaaa?!?! Protank I for $34.95?!?

    Not to mention a 5ml bottle of juice is 6 bux. And its more like 4mil in reality. Being a resourceful and internet savvy individual certainly allows me to bypass these places, but MOST average joe smokers arent going to spend countless hours researching and shopping around like I did. So they dont know any better and get ripped off big time on a product they know nothing about which may or may not work for them. Im sorry but it really peeves me. $12 for a 10mil of cheap import Chinese boring flavors?! Heck no! I just ordered 80 mil from Ahlusion for 45 bucks! Man...


    Point here is...vendors: please do not manipulate and skew prices for a profit! That should be illegal.

    Vapers: please DO shop around and find better prices if something is off.

    Too bad its the only shop in the area . O well, vape mail here i come!

    i only go to B&M for juice as its the same price as online... without the shipping. (sometimes even have bins of liquid on sale) aand my vape shop is darkish so all their juices that sit are actually steeping in a way ;D.. 2 month old monkey cream? Can't beat it !

    plus since B&M take fivestar rewards card around here.. I've already acquired enough points for my first free e-juice bottle ;D

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    This is EXACTLY the reason I do ALL my shopping online!! I got hosed the same way when I bought my first eGo starter kit from my local vape shop. I left the store with 2 eGo 650 batteries, 2 el cheapo clearomizers, a 10ml bottle of e-liquid, a case and a charger...total cost was $85.00 and I was a pleased as punch. That's the price you pay for being a new vaper and they count on that when you get held up on your initial buy. It wasn't long before I realized what fool I was and I never went back.

    A fair profit should be expected but NOT highway robbery!! I have no sympathy for shops the charge exorbitant prices, overhead be damned!! If they get any repeat business it's a miracle as far as I'm concerned.


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    I guess I'm lucky. I go to several local vape shops and prices are very reasonable. By me they all have online stores to supplement their business (which I'm sure helps a ton to keep prices low) and offer identical prices for both retail and online stores.

    My favorite vape shop sells 20ml bottles of juice for $9, the SVD (device only) for $60 and protank II for $20. Very reasonable for a B&M.

    I agree with OP those prices are ridiculous and I wouldn't spend a dime in there.
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    Awesome feedback on this topic. I think its a very relevant issue that people have clearly experienced.


    My town dynamics are a bit unique. I live in an oil boom town in western texas. The boom has been blowing up our town with cash. High school dropouts run to the oilfield at 17 and rake in 60-100K no problem. The easy money drew 100 thousand people for work in the past 2-4 years. So our town is now overflowing with money and customers. I can see in my minds eye how many dollars his place rakes in, because any time i go for juice(waiting on juice mail), theres a line out the door. Everytime.


    So yea they are predatory and making a killing. They def have the customer volume to reduce prices, and thefact they dont is even more sickening. You literally cant even taste juices becus all of their 15 tester batts are already in use.

    If i wanted to open shop and undercut the heck out of them, it wouldbe easy. But i dont feel like it so ill keep supporting great online vendors who also own BM shops .

    I agree that to stay competitive and to supplement ur sales, your BM shop needs a web based sales arm. This is the internet age.

    Ahlusion, VapeDojo and many others do this and succeed.

    In response to Yelp, i will certainly post a negative and honest review on there. People need to know they have better options.

    I wasted $150 on faulty Blu gear, so maybe everyone goes thru this price raping when they start out. It sucks and isnt right and people will catch on and smell the bull...

    Until then il support shops who have ideals, morals, and use the best possible ingredients in their juice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonner View Post
    If you have a vape shop, you need to make money fast, because the competition is moving in fast.

    Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one around who doesn't own a shop, sell ejuice, or do YouTube reviews.
    nope,,,,I don't either,,,,

    although I DO provide free juice DIY for my daughters and their spouses/SO's

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    You know, every time I see *anything* marked up, I always ask what's the warranty. If something breaks, will that store cover me? If they tell me there's no warranty, then that's a rub against the grain. But if they say they will cover parts & labor or replace it or have a decent sounding policy, I'll take it into consideration.
    Cheers!

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    My black Friday experience. Itaste svd $99.00 but shop offered 25% off for the day. JohnsonCreek 15ml $15.95. You want to support the local people but just can't justify it. Sad.

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    Here is my take on it. I live in Austin, and if I had to make a guess, there are probably 20-30 B&M's in the area. In the last two weeks or so alone, I have seen or heard about at least 5 I didn't know about. That doesn't include stores that carry vape stuff, but isn't their main source of income. This is vape only shops. About half of these, I weeded out just based on the online reviews at places like yelp. Of the other half, i have been to most, out of curiosity if nothing else. Of those, there are three that I go to regularly.

    Those three have "reasonable pricing," and I bought my vvvw/3, my first MVP2, and my Zmax there. (all on sale, or they would have been toooo high.) I also buy the occasional tank, drip tip, or other misc. Of my juice, I would say it's about 50/50 online and B&M.

    I will spend a reasonable amount more to buy locally and support the shops that I feel are worthy of that support. (Note, the reasonable) Heck, I was at one of them for two hours yesterday just jawing with the owner who greets me by name every time I come in. We talk product, the industry, and just life in general. she knows my girlfriends name, what we do for work, my other hobbies etc. Other than ECF, I don't have many vaping friends, and NONE that have turned it into a hobby, and not just a way to quit smoking. My girlfriend is happy I'm not smoking, and she TRY's to listen to my ramblings, but I know deep down that she doesn't give a hang about the differences between a single coil carto and a dual, or why I really want a VTR or a Provari. I CAN talk about these things with Mel over at Amp.

    I kind of look at it like a bar. I can buy the same booze and mix it at home for way cheaper, but I don't get the atmosphere. I don't view it as paying for overhead, I view it as paying a little more to keep my comfortable vape lounge around to hang out in.

    In addition, I see the way the GOOD shops handle customers. You think it's bad on here???? watch about 20 customers in a row come in and ask why something tastes funny, (you haven't changed the coil in two weeks) or something broke, (you dropped it) or why your husbands battery thingy that goes on the other thingy that he smokes with is doing the thing that it used to do, but he couldn't come in because he's at work. I see these customers get handled with care and patience, and that helps ALL of us. The more people that quit smoking and start vaping, the more powerful we become as body. that is worth me paying a bit more when it makes sense.

    I still buy a LOT of stuff online. I know what prices are give and take, and I'll look for the best deal. I don't go to shops that have crappy product, exorbitant prices, or are obviously just in it to make a quick buck from people who don't know better. I save my money for the ones who deserve it, and I figure the rest will get thinned out.

    Long winded! lol
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    You mentioned that they are the only vape shop in the area. That's why they can get away with those prices. As soon as someone else opens a vape shop, the prices will come down. At least, that's how it's worked here.

    Here in Dallas, there are a lot of vape shops, and at most of them, the prices are not a lot higher than online pricing. They can't be making much profit on the hardware, but the big markup for vape shops is in the juice. And that works out well, because juice is the one thing most vapers really end up buying over and over. (That and cartomizers or atomizers.) Other than atomizers, I hardly ever buy hardware. I already have everything I need. But I go through a lot of juice, and I usually buy it locally because the prices aren't much different than online, but it lets me support the locals.

    I do order things online (at least, I did back when I was buying hardware, and likely will when I buy hardware again.) But I like having local shops. If something happened and I needed something right away, the local shops can help. Mail order means a delay waiting on it to be delivered. And it's nice to see the new "stuff" in person and ask questions. That's worth a few extra bucks.

    Yes, they charge a little more. They have to, because they have more expenses compared to an online shop run out of a garage.

    When I first started vaping, there was only one vape shop that I knew about near me. Using ECF, I had a pretty good idea what I wanted, and I had priced the stuff online. The local store did charge a little more, but it wasn't that much more, and having someone to show me the basics and answer questions was very helpful. Well worth it, IMO.

    I can understand if you want to save every dime and order online. But don't complain that not everyone makes that same choice.
    30 years of smoking, over 3 packs a day before I started vaping. Then I bought my first PV. Cigarettes have lost their power over me. I've been free since 10/06/2011. Thanks ECF!

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