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    I was wondering if anybody has experienced any backache pains or other pains after smoking a while?
    It could be just me being paranoid lol

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    Nope, none.
    I've been e-smoking for about 7 weeks.

    The only thing is that I'm more thirsty, so I drink more water.

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    Only thing different is what sanneke said. I've been really thirsty and it seems my skin is dryer lately too. But that could be the wierd weather we're having as much as anything else. But I do wake up with a very dry mouth and throat in the morning. Drinking more water lately but doesn't seem to help much.
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    i have experienced pains in the joints and bones of my right hand like what i imagine arthritis feels like, but i think its unrelated and probably just a co-incidence as it is only in one hand, the one i use pre-dominately it has been doing alot of work recently and i think it is worn out. i think i just need to rest it. going to a doc tomorrow about it. i was going to mention the e-cig.

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    You joint pains might well be from e-smoking. Propylene glycol is the carrier for the nicotine in our solutions; it's 80% of the e-liquid. In the lungs, the PG breaks down to lactic acid, which the body absorbs and ultimately eliminates in your urine. But lactic acid is the same stuff that sore muscles produce. It can cause leg cramps, for sure, and might be the cause of your joint pain.

    The dry throat is very common and is definitely caused by PG. PG is a humectant, meaning it draws moisture to itself. Put it on your skin and it takes moisture from the air, making for softer skin. If the air is dry, however, it draws moisture from the skin. That's happening in your throat as you sleep. You've coated it with PG and the air conditioned air you're sucking in with each snore is drier than the throat surface. Moisture moves OUT of your throat, courtesy of the PG. You awaken with a dry, sore throat.

    Drink fluid before you go to bed. Drink as much fluid as you can during the day. Gargle before going to bed if that's your habit. Clean the PG out of your throat and see if you don't wake up with a normal -- yuck! -- morning mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalBob
    You joint pains might well be from e-smoking. Propylene glycol is the carrier for the nicotine in our solutions; it's 80% of the e-liquid. In the lungs, the PG breaks down to lactic acid, which the body absorbs and ultimately eliminates in your urine. But lactic acid is the same stuff that sore muscles produce. It can cause leg cramps, for sure, and might be the cause of your joint pain.

    The dry throat is very common and is definitely caused by PG. PG is a humectant, meaning it draws moisture to itself. Put it on your skin and it takes moisture from the air, making for softer skin. If the air is dry, however, it draws moisture from the skin. That's happening in your throat as you sleep. You've coated it with PG and the air conditioned air you're sucking in with each snore is drier than the throat surface. Moisture moves OUT of your throat, courtesy of the PG. You awaken with a dry, sore throat.

    Drink fluid before you go to bed. Drink as much fluid as you can during the day. Gargle before going to bed if that's your habit. Clean the PG out of your throat and see if you don't wake up with a normal -- yuck! -- morning mouth.
    Entirely Correct TB....what he says is true and factually correct....if you're experiencing more pains than usual than it can be related to PG effect(conversion ) to lactic acid....use less on the device and the pain will go away..without painkillers...

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    I have been getting more frequent backaches since I started on this thing.
    I have back problems already... But since e-smoking I seem to be a little more achy. Not enough to really bother me though.

    Oh one other thing I noticed:
    I've had a problem with acne since I was about 13 yrs old. Especially in the summer my breakouts are pretty bad.
    I have had only 2-3 cigarettes in the last week for the first time in years.
    My face has never been clearer.
    Seriously the last time it was this clear was when I was 12... NICE

    I dunno if it's the lack of harmful chemicals, or if the PG is helping to keep my skin drier... but I like it!

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    I now have such severe pain in my arm joints that I'm going to the doctor tomorrow, although I don't even expect him to have heard of e-cigs or know any effects of propylene glycol inhalation. I'm at the point where I can't sleep through the night without pain repeatedly awakening me. It is, as DC said, like arthritis. Shoulder is worst. Then wrist. Entire right arm, actually.

    I have no cause-effect proof, only the reality that the pains began months after I began e-smoking, and the knowledge that propylene glycol breaks down to lactic acid, which then circulates in our bloodstream. Lactic acid, of course, causes muscle soreness.

    I'm not sure what kind of medical merry-go-round I'll have to travel to find the reason for the pain. But I bet the first thing the doctor says is "stop smoking that thing and see if the pain goes away." Alas, I'm pretty addicted to non-stop use of four devices throughout the day. I could get by with snus, Stonewall and a pipe, but I don't want to. I enjoy e-smoking.

    Anybody else getting new muscle soreness since they began e-smoking?

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    I had a bit of an ache a while back but am not sure what caused it. I mostly esmoke vegetable glycerine now with a smaller amount of diluted propylene glycol and don't have any trouble with that mix. Maybe you could change your mix to veg glycerine based rather than stopping esmoking.

    Good luck with sorting out what's wrong, I hope the pain stops soon.

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    Thanks Kate. My own brew is done with vegetable glycerine. But to know how much nicotine I'm getting, I mix VG and a Bickford flavor and 24mg nicotine liquid. So I am getting a mix. I'll report back on what the doctor thinks.

    Heck, could be carpal tunnel syndrome.

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