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Upon Further Review.. E-cig Breakdown! in Health and Medical Issues; Originally Posted by Klimpt Bump for this question ^^ Ok, What I gather is there is no SGS public online ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klimpt View Post
    Bump for this question ^^
    Ok, What I gather is there is no SGS public online database search. You can request a report from SGS tho.
    Certificates for Products by SGS

    here is a link to a pdf of one mfg's cherry flavor. Report prepared via SGS..
    Hope this helps you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deewal View Post
    Has this been made a Stcky yet ?
    If it has'nt then it should be. If it is not going to be made one then i'll stick the link into my sig.

    This i disagree with. " leaving no smell "
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    Default Hey thats not fair!

    Your study shows details of e-cig ingredients. Maybe ingredients should be "trade secrets" like Philip Morris ingredients.

    From Philip Morris web site:
    "We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which,if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. "

    Doesn't every food and drink in the USA discloses all ingredients regardless of "trade secrets".

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    Quote Originally Posted by emus View Post
    Your study shows details of e-cig ingredients. Maybe ingredients should be "trade secrets" like Philip Morris ingredients.

    From Philip Morris web site:
    "We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which,if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. "

    Doesn't every food and drink in the USA discloses all ingredients regardless of "trade secrets".

    Even if every food and drink discloses them confidentially to a federal agency, they don't always disclose them in detail to the public. Something like "the Colonel's secret blend of 11 herbs and spices" from KFC would be an example, or if you've ever watched food shows where they visit a factory, they frequently say the employees couldn't give out their "secret recipe" to the public (many even have to sign NDA's). Lots of other foods just list "spices" on their ingredient lists as well.

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    Good point. Still, it would be nice of Philip Morris to provide all ingredients of their cancer stick to the public. Unless of course, they are sure the additives are perfectly safe to burn in their death sticks. I would hope most trade secret foods and drinks are considered to be safe, unlike analogs.

    I've read some FDA officials don't know ingredients/emissons of e-cigs.

    What kind of rocket scientist does government need to hire in order to determine the emissions of an e-cig anyway? I mean the Gov would be willing to cough up some dough if e-cigs can save thousands of lives, right?

    I am amazed that the cancer research organizations are not frantically testing e-cigs for potential cancer prevention. I mean their goal is to cure cancer ASAP, right?

    Dazed and confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emus View Post
    Good point. Still, it would be nice of Philip Morris to provide all ingredients of their cancer stick to the public.

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    I've read some FDA officials don't know ingredients/emissons of e-cigs.

    The new tobacco legislation requires the tobacco companies to disclose all the ingredients. It's part of the new labeling standard.
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    I just looked at Philip Morris site and thought they are withholding trade secret ingredients. Maybe the new regs will take care of it like you said.

    Philip Morris web site June 17, 2009:
    "We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which, if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf Monkey View Post
    The new tobacco legislation requires the tobacco companies to disclose all the ingredients. It's part of the new labeling standard.
    Ahhhh YEAH, like that's gonna really happen. Do you really think that the fda will compromise the future of BT and the tax revenue they produce?
    We will never REALLY know what'sin them. IMO

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    If they consider it "Trade Secret" it would indicate the formula is not patented. Once it's patented, it becomes public knwledge.

    Coke is another example of trade secret.

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    www cbc ca/health/story/2009/03/27/electronic-smoking html
    LOL I just had a friend send this to me. Makes me laugh. Like e-smoking could be anywhere near as bad as smoking a regular cigarette...

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