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| Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pinellas Park FL
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| Ok, What I gather is there is no SGS public online database search. You can request a report from SGS tho. Certificates for Products by SGS here is a link to a pdf of one mfg's cherry flavor. Report prepared via SGS.. Hope this helps you. Ec502 |
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| Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pinellas Park FL
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http://healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport30-Oct-08.pdf http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/bibliography.htm http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/supersmoker.pdf PROPYLENE GLYCOL http://www.chem.unep.ch/irptc/sids/OECDSIDS/57-55-6.pdf http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/tox1.pdf Nicotine and addiction. (tobaccoharmreduction.org) E Cigarette Interview with David Sweanor - Part 2 | |
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| | #23 |
| Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009
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Your study shows details of e-cig ingredients. Maybe ingredients should be "trade secrets" like Philip Morris ingredients. From Philip Morris web site: "We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which,if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. " ![]() Doesn't every food and drink in the USA discloses all ingredients regardless of "trade secrets". |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Even if every food and drink discloses them confidentially to a federal agency, they don't always disclose them in detail to the public. Something like "the Colonel's secret blend of 11 herbs and spices" from KFC would be an example, or if you've ever watched food shows where they visit a factory, they frequently say the employees couldn't give out their "secret recipe" to the public (many even have to sign NDA's). Lots of other foods just list "spices" on their ingredient lists as well. | |
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| | #25 |
| Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009
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Good point. Still, it would be nice of Philip Morris to provide all ingredients of their cancer stick to the public. Unless of course, they are sure the additives are perfectly safe to burn in their death sticks. I would hope most trade secret foods and drinks are considered to be safe, unlike analogs. I've read some FDA officials don't know ingredients/emissons of e-cigs. What kind of rocket scientist does government need to hire in order to determine the emissions of an e-cig anyway? I mean the Gov would be willing to cough up some dough if e-cigs can save thousands of lives, right? I am amazed that the cancer research organizations are not frantically testing e-cigs for potential cancer prevention. I mean their goal is to cure cancer ASAP, right? ![]() Dazed and confused. |
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| Super Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon
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The new tobacco legislation requires the tobacco companies to disclose all the ingredients. It's part of the new labeling standard.
__________________ It isn't the caffeine in a latte that makes you fat. It's the milk. It isn't the nicotine in a cigarette that kills you. It's the tar, CO2, fine particulate and chemical additives. | |
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| | #27 |
| Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009
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I just looked at Philip Morris site and thought they are withholding trade secret ingredients. Maybe the new regs will take care of it like you said. Philip Morris web site June 17, 2009: "We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which, if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. " |
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| Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pinellas Park FL
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We will never REALLY know what'sin them. IMO | |
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| | #29 |
| ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hendersonville Tennessee
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If they consider it "Trade Secret" it would indicate the formula is not patented. Once it's patented, it becomes public knwledge. Coke is another example of trade secret.
__________________ Quote: "What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and day."—Dr Ley former Commissioner of the FDA. |
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| | #30 |
| Full Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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www cbc ca/health/story/2009/03/27/electronic-smoking html LOL I just had a friend send this to me. Makes me laugh. Like e-smoking could be anywhere near as bad as smoking a regular cigarette... |
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