Interestingly enough.

**HappyGirl** · 04-15-2009, 02:58 AM

I am not one for bringing the negative to this as I personally WANT it to be healthier for me or I wouldn't have been researching this for myself.
I am doing a research paper right now on another angle.
I am a Registered Dental Hygienist. I work at the Pentagon on Active Duty military only. A big part of my job is tobacco cessation counseling. (I know, who am I? but it's my job....) My concern for my patients is if the PG is converted to glycogen, what effect does this vapor have on the oral cavity in relation to caries (decay)? This may not seem like a big deal to you, but it has the potential to be huge. Remember when Mountain Dew came out and the American Dental Association coined the term "Mountain Dew Mouth" due to the huge population of young kids developing a certain pattern of blow out decay? We could potentially be dealing with the same thing here. I have ways to combat this, so I still think vaping has to be gennerally better for you, but still, a valid point to consider that I will be researching.

One other point on the glycol....what about diabetics....could this throw off their sugar readings if the body is burning this as sugar?

I appreciate all of you who have contributed such great ideas to this forum!

**Klimpt** · 04-15-2009, 03:45 AM

For crying out loud, I can't believe all the conscientious and smart people on this forum haven't got together to get some vapour tested. You'd probably get it done by a commercial lab or university for peanuts. It is such a simple and cheap thing to get done and would be better than a million letters to politicians or phone calls to Chines factories.

I'd organise it myself but I think it should probably be done by someone with a longer posting history here. C'mon, someone do it.

**jonny123456** · 04-15-2009, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Kate

That's a good point Cleo, I forgot about the toxicology tests.

Ruyan and Wicked eliquids have been assessed by labs for toxic ingredients.

ok so everyone is certain that Ruyan liquid is 100 percent safe right? cause i got sum today

**calligal** · 04-15-2009, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by HappyGirl

I am not one for bringing the negative to this as I personally WANT it to be healthier for me or I wouldn't have been

One other point on the glycol....what about diabetics....could this throw off their sugar readings if the body is burning this as sugar?

I appreciate all of you who have contributed such great ideas to this forum!

On another topic which may need to be included into this one regarding diabetics
Interesting comment left on one of my e-Juice reviews...

I think we are now wondering why you brought up that glycol could affect a diabetic because it seems that it may indeed be a possibility if using the sweet flavors supposedly trigger the brain to release glucose into the body?

As for me though I would like for all of Kates questions to be answered one of my main concerns is that we want to be able to say our vapor is harmless to others. Is it? One late afternoon I noticed that my vapor was not dissolving into thin air but lingering thickly into the air as it meandered by my nonsmoking husbands face. It was thick enough that he waved it away. So what is he breathing in?

**Letzin Hale** · 04-15-2009, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kate

I don't think I've seen an analysis of vapour yet. A UK company, Intellicig, reckon they will be producing a report on vapour for their new eliquid any day now. I'll believe it when I see it.

Oh ye of little faith! Have you not checked the Intellicig website lately?
True to their word they have posted a report on their liquid and it includes testing the vapour, particularly for the presence of acrolein which has been discussed at length on here with all kinds of suppositions.
Certainly the report showed no known dangers with the ingredients whether in liquid or vapour form. As with many things I suppose it remains the users' choice.
I think it costs more to test than a bag of peanuts!

See the report here.
Alan.

**Letzin Hale** · 04-15-2009, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Klimpt

For crying out loud, I can't believe all the conscientious and smart people on this forum haven't got together to get some vapour tested. You'd probably get it done by a commercial lab or university for peanuts. It is such a simple and cheap thing to get done and would be better than a million letters to politicians or phone calls to Chines factories.

I'd organise it myself but I think it should probably be done by someone with a longer posting history here. C'mon, someone do it.

You don't have to do it but please, at least get a quote on the price before making claims about it being simple and cheap. Your excuse for not doing it is lame.
Alan.

**leaford** · 04-15-2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Klimpt

Sorry, this question must have been asked and answered a million times but I can't find a relevent thread on it just now: has anyone analyzed the actual vapour? It must be relatively simple to capture some vapour and it must be a relatively simple (and cheap) lab procedure to test for its composition. After all, what's in the vapour is really all the matters, right?

Here's Health New Zealand's
Safety Report on the Ruyan® e-cigarette Cartridge and Inhaled Aerosol
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**Klimpt** · 04-15-2009, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Letzin Hale

You don't have to do it but please, at least get a quote on the price before making claims about it being simple and cheap. Your excuse for not doing it is lame.
Alan.

Ok, maybe it was, but I've only been at this a week so really don't know my e-smoking .... from my e-smoking elbow. I really wouldn't be an ideal person for the job. As for the cost of a lab test, I know for certain that a university lab would do it for an amount measured at the modest end of thousands of dollars. Probably a few pennies from every registered member here.

I didn't mean the brusque tone, was just striving for rhetorical effect.