How valid are vaping health claims?

[Dilutetrips]

who has vaped for over two years? has your health changed for the better? What have your doctors said? I know it can take years for negative side can show up but how many years and anything bad or good?

[cleo]

Oh ye of little faith! Have you not checked the Intellicig website lately?
True to their word they have posted a report on their liquid and it includes testing the vapour, particularly for the presence of acrolein which has been discussed at length on here with all kinds of suppositions.
Certainly the report showed no known dangers with the ingredients whether in liquid or vapour form. As with many things I suppose it remains the users' choice.
I think it costs more to test than a bag of peanuts!
See the report here.
Alan.

i have checked the report and in my opinion it is far from being complete.it answers some precise questions and doesnt evaluate the toxicity of the liquid accurately.check it for yourself

http://www.intellicig.com/images/pdf...2009-04-14.pdf

[Klimpt]

One other point on the glycol....what about diabetics....could this throw off their sugar readings if the body is burning this as sugar?

Just noticed this post at the TW forum:

I just got a call from my doctor's nurse. I was there for a blood test yesterday. I am considered a diabetic--statistically--I have no symptoms but years ago my blood sugar was too high. In the US, 120 is a good number for daytime. 180 is max. I tend to run ~150.
The A1C tests for the last 3 months show how much sugar has been in your blood. The norm is from 4 to 7. I have been ~7.
I have been vaping for 2 months now, and my blood sugar was 372 with an A1C of 9.7. These numbers are ridiculously high. I figured out it is the propylene glycol, which is another name for sugar.
Then I went back to the e-cig sites and, sure enough, noticed the dreaded words "NOT FOR DIABETICS" that I had missed earlier.
So I had quit analogs, but am now both smoking and vaping. I smoke analogs so I won't vape so much. I got in trouble for eating too many cookies, now it's for smoking too much sugar!!!
My question is: Can you make vapour from anything besides sugar and, if so, would you? If it has sugar, it must be fattening too, so you could market it as "Wicked Diet Liquid."

General Queries

I actually didn't know that PG = sugar. I'm kinda bummed out that after all the reading I've done about e-cigs that I somehow missed that PG was another name for sugar. Is that right?? Sigh.

[Kate]

That's not my understanding of propylene glycol. I believe that it metabolises to pyruvic acid and then to lactic acid. Glycerine metabolises to glucose - that's a sugar.

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pyruvic acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid

Glycerol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Frankie]

I had blood tests while vaping. My sugar was good, even a bit on the low side. And I used to mix 1:1 nic juice with VG...

But the poster was *diabetic*. Than means she sould not use nicotine in any form, because it inhibits insulin which leads to higher blood sugar levels. Her problem is nic, not PG/VG.

[Klimpt]

I had blood tests while vaping. My sugar was good, even a bit on the low side. And I used to mix 1:1 nic juice with VG...

But the poster was *diabetic*. Than means she sould not use nicotine in any form, because it inhibits insulin which leads to higher blood sugar levels. Her problem is nic, not PG/VG.

Thanks for that Frankie. Yeah, I think the poster must have gotten mixed up. I can't find anything that says PG is related to sugar.

[katink]

Perhaps the problem is nic; or perhaps the mix-up is, that the poster was actually using VG and not PG (or both combined even)?

[Kate]

There is some more discussion about health claims and ethics on this thread for anyone interested - FDA vs more rational minds

[Kate]

Another risk has been identified and should be mentioned on this thread:

Read about a chap over on the PS sub-forum who had to make a visit to his GP due to possible Nic overdose.

Seemed to have similar symptoms to a nic overdose but :

Was in the hospital for two days with what I thought was nicotine poisoning. Ive only been vaping the 6mg or 12mg juice but started to get extremely dizzy and sick.
The doctor told me it was not nicotine poisoning but sysemic absorbtion from lithium batteries.
The battery was cracked on the inside and allowed the lithium from the battery to vape with the e-liquid.

Very Interesting.
Several people previously have mentioned your symptoms on this forum , and most advisory replies put it down as Nic overdose.

Sysemic absorbtion of lithium from a damaged battery is another Risk which people shouldn't rule out with these things.

just be aware guys , If this is a factual account it's another thing to watch out for.

ApO.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...tml#post246432

[Doc]

Most implantable devices use lithium ion batteries (nerve stimulators, implantable defribrillators, etc.) These are safe. Of course they may be of a higher quality than those used in an e-cig, not dropped, not placed in water.....