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values84 · 07-14-2008, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaford

What, you want me to start handing them out like they don't really mean anything?

i'm so new to the forums i thought you were joking about bonus points. pm me about the facts
or post a reply so other new members will know.

windblown · 07-14-2008, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaford

Speak for yourself. I plan to live forever.

Bonus geek points if you recognize where that line's from.

What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived. After all Number One, we're only mortal.

TheEmperorOfIceCream · 07-14-2008, 03:32 AM

Hey Leaford

I boldly went where everyone has gone before and looked it up, so guess I didn't earn the geek points. But I want 'em cos of my Kirkish Kobayashi Maru workround...

TropicalBob · 07-14-2008, 03:49 AM

Pop quiz: How many of these remarks have we all made when we were smokers:

1. Well, I have to die of something.
2. I might as well live a happy life and cigarettes make me happy.
3. Who wants to spend the last years of life in a nursing home anyhow. I'd rather go quick.
4. Smoking is my only vice.
5. I deserve the feeling smoking gives me. It's my reward.
6. All those health studies are a bunch of junk science from people paid off by special interests to make tobacco look bad.
7. Nobody tells ME what to do! If I want to smoke, I'll smoke and to hell with them.

Any of that sound like who we used to be, before we got smart, discovered far safer alternatives to inhaling tobacco smoke, and vowed to find a healthier way to use a substance we enjoy? There's nothing GOOD that can be said about sucking tobacco's cancer-causing smoke into our lungs.

A few more questions, please:

1. How old is old enough?
2. How does life without lung function, the body in constant pain, unable to exhale a breath, sound?
3. How about coughing so hard that you end up faint, holding a bloody tissue in your hand?
4. How about an immune system so compromised that if cancer doesn't kill you, the first virus that enters your body will?
5. Is 67 old enough? That's how old BishyBob's grandmother, now facing death from lung cancer, is. He tells us in another post that she suffers COPD, emphysema, all the ravages of an adulthood spent smoking cigarettes. She's 67. THAT IS TOO YOUNG TO DIE. There is nothing on earth worth throwing away good, healthy, productive later years. It's tragic is what it is. My heart goes out to him and her.

Final question:

6. How many of us wish we had never smoked that first cigarette? We were dumb asses then, weren't we, but we don't have to remain that way. We know better now.

Now, we're all still free to make personal decisions. E-smoking is a smart decision, I believe. Getting off nicotine is even smarter, but certainly not easy for many, myself included. Just don't gloss over the very real dangers of cigarette smoking, as if it were just another of life's daily risks. It's a fool's choice. It's no longer glamorous or smart to smoke cigarettes. The world knows that and smokers who refuse to acknowledge it are simply living in fear of not being able to satisfy their addiction. They live in denial. It's a deadly lie from the dark side of the brain. It's why tobacco is called the Demon Weed.

Sorry, but the way this thread went into a defense of cigarettes got to me. Whatever we do, do it with enlightenment.

Mr.Darcy · 07-14-2008, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaford

Speak for yourself. I plan to live forever.

Bonus geek points if you recognize where that line's from.

well im a geek too leaford.

startrek the next generation.

can i have my points now?

leaford · 07-14-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by values84

i'm so new to the forums i thought you were joking about bonus points. pm me about the facts
or post a reply so other new members will know.

I was just joking.

They really don't mean anything. Here, have 1,000,000,000 bonus points!

TheEmperorOfIceCream · 07-14-2008, 01:56 PM

well if you're not going to take it seriously...

leaford · 07-14-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windblown

What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived. After all Number One, we're only mortal.

Dong-ding-ding! We haaave a Winnnnnnaaaahhh!!!! It was from Riker to Picard near the end of Star Trek: Generations.

But, sorry, Windy, I already gave the points to Values.

I thought I had some more lying about, but can't seem to find them now.

leaford · 07-14-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Darcy

well im a geek too leaford.

startrek the next generation.

can i have my points now?

I am afraid all geek points are on backorder, Mr Darcy. Values plumb cleaned me out.

Mr.Darcy · 07-14-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaford

I am afraid all geek points are on backorder, Mr Darcy. Values plumb cleaned me out.

ok,obviously we're all geeks anyway...

bring back Firefly!

07-14-2008, 03:32 AM	#23
TheEmperorOfIceCream Super Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 892	Hey Leaford I boldly went where everyone has gone before and looked it up, so guess I didn't earn the geek points. But I want 'em cos of my Kirkish Kobayashi Maru workround... __________________ Forgotten but not gone...

07-14-2008, 01:56 PM	#27
TheEmperorOfIceCream Super Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 892	well if you're not going to take it seriously... __________________ Forgotten but not gone...

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07-14-2008, 03:49 AM	#24
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,413	Pop quiz: How many of these remarks have we all made when we were smokers: 1. Well, I have to die of something. 2. I might as well live a happy life and cigarettes make me happy. 3. Who wants to spend the last years of life in a nursing home anyhow. I'd rather go quick. 4. Smoking is my only vice. 5. I deserve the feeling smoking gives me. It's my reward. 6. All those health studies are a bunch of junk science from people paid off by special interests to make tobacco look bad. 7. Nobody tells ME what to do! If I want to smoke, I'll smoke and to hell with them. Any of that sound like who we used to be, before we got smart, discovered far safer alternatives to inhaling tobacco smoke, and vowed to find a healthier way to use a substance we enjoy? There's nothing GOOD that can be said about sucking tobacco's cancer-causing smoke into our lungs. A few more questions, please: 1. How old is old enough? 2. How does life without lung function, the body in constant pain, unable to exhale a breath, sound? 3. How about coughing so hard that you end up faint, holding a bloody tissue in your hand? 4. How about an immune system so compromised that if cancer doesn't kill you, the first virus that enters your body will? 5. Is 67 old enough? That's how old BishyBob's grandmother, now facing death from lung cancer, is. He tells us in another post that she suffers COPD, emphysema, all the ravages of an adulthood spent smoking cigarettes. She's 67. THAT IS TOO YOUNG TO DIE. There is nothing on earth worth throwing away good, healthy, productive later years. It's tragic is what it is. My heart goes out to him and her. Final question: 6. How many of us wish we had never smoked that first cigarette? We were dumb asses then, weren't we, but we don't have to remain that way. We know better now. Now, we're all still free to make personal decisions. E-smoking is a smart decision, I believe. Getting off nicotine is even smarter, but certainly not easy for many, myself included. Just don't gloss over the very real dangers of cigarette smoking, as if it were just another of life's daily risks. It's a fool's choice. It's no longer glamorous or smart to smoke cigarettes. The world knows that and smokers who refuse to acknowledge it are simply living in fear of not being able to satisfy their addiction. They live in denial. It's a deadly lie from the dark side of the brain. It's why tobacco is called the Demon Weed. Sorry, but the way this thread went into a defense of cigarettes got to me. Whatever we do, do it with enlightenment.