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Old 07-14-2008, 05:51 PM   #41
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You guys are doing really well. In more modest vein, I had my last tobacco cig at 1.15 on Friday. Got some laser surgery (peepers) scheduled for the start of August and I want the house particulate free for the recovery period. Fingers crossed!

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Old 07-14-2008, 06:12 PM   #42
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I got my first e-cig and smoked my last cigarette on April 6th, so I'm over the 3 month mark now.
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:24 PM   #43
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I know what a no-no it would be to claim these can help cigarette smokers kick the habit/addiction. The FTC would be all over such a claim! But e-cigs really are the best way for so many smokers to put cigarette smoking behind them. The vapor, hand-to-mouth action, ritual of dripping or refilling, reaching for it in a shirt pocket. It will just have to be our little secret that this gets people off the killer cigs ... Don't say a word!

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I know what a no-no it would be to claim these can help cigarette smokers kick the habit/addiction. The FTC would be all over such a claim!
How do we get these people to quit advertising it as such? I've been emailing bloggers and newspapers whenever I see it touted as a "quit smoking" tool...and including links to websites like Njoy and Crown 7 to show that the e-cigarette is intended as a smoking alternative and should be referred to as such.

I hope that helps out some. Doing my little bit to keep my e-cigs.
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:55 PM   #45
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Reminder info on PG from another thread

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I'm also a bit worried about the inhalation of PG, but it is actually used as a transport medium in medical inhalation devices.....There's actually a recent study where they used PG as transport medium for a medical treatment (only on animals), but the outcome is interesting.

Here's the link to the abstract on PubMed.... And in short here's the most interesting quote out of the abstract:
"There were no respiratory or systemic effects of high doses of propylene glycol relative to air controls."
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:18 AM   #46
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Dong-ding-ding! We haaave a Winnnnnnaaaahhh!!!! It was from Riker to Picard near the end of Star Trek: Generations.

But, sorry, Windy, I already gave the points to Values. I thought I had some more lying about, but can't seem to find them now.
wow uh thanks

you can't see it but i'm running around chasing my tail. wow thanks.

a little joke for you:

a drunk walks in a bar with a dog and convinces the bartender to give him a drink for free because he could prove his dog could talk. then he say's to the dog "dog what are we standing under? the dog replies roof, roof " the unhappy bartender promptly made him leave.

after about a half hr the drunk returns and pleads with the bartender that his dog could really talk and could prove it for another drink. after getting his drink he say's to the dog " dog who is the most famous baseball player of all time " the dog replies ruth' ruth reffering to babe ruth " well this ticked the bartender off so he ruffed the guy up a bit and threw him out.

as the drunk staggered home the dog walked beside him. after a couple of blocks i turned my head and looked at him and said do you think i should have said mickey mantle?

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Old 07-18-2008, 12:35 PM   #47
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Note this Wiki entry:

If propylene glycol is in your system the last thing you would have to worry about is drug screening. Even at low dosages this chemical can kill. There are several documented cases of people ingesting propylene glycol and in most the ones who have ingested it either became very ill or died.
Hey, even though I can't leave this stand as is, you're still my idol.

That quote isn't from a sourced Wiki entry, it's from a random passerby confusing PG with Ethylene Glycol on wiki-Answers.

Of PG deaths, sourced-Wiki says:
Cases of propylene glycol poisoning are related to either inappropriate intravenous use or accidental ingestion by children.

^ National Library of Medicine;. Human Toxicity Excerpts: CAS Registry Number: 57-55-6 (1,2-Propylene Glycol). Selected toxicity information from HSDB. 2005.

I haven't read all the reports to verify... here is CAS Registry Number: 57-55-6.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:06 PM   #48
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Good catch. Lots of bad info passes as fact on the Web.

I do find it a bit disconcerting that only Ruyan is clinically testing its product line, and the sales of all e-smoking items began before anyone could know the health impacts of using them. I know lots of users here report curiosity as a main point from others. Among my friends, the first question is: "How do you know it's safe to do that?" I have no truthful answer.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:22 PM   #49
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Know what you mean, Bob. I give the rubbish reply 'cigarettes will kill me - this might kill me'.

It's like saying I'd rather be stabbed than shot...
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