Should I take the e-smoking route?

[kramerica2]

After more than 10 years of smoking, looking to get rid of this habit. I've tried before the Nicorette inhaler, and managed to quit for about 6 months, but that's about it.

Now, I know that e-smoking isn't risk-free as It still contains Nicotine.

My concerns are for different reasons, I've browsed the forum a bit and found out other potential risk factors:
1. Inhaling PG.
2. Ammonia in liquid?
3. Apparently the stuff that holds the atomizer is Polyester, and thus lethal as it heats up?

Should I be concerned from these factors? Are they avoidable? For example, if I check daily that the atomizer isn't touching the polyester stuff, will it be safe?

Thanks a lot..

[CaSHMeRe]

1. Can inhaling PG be worse then hundreds of carcinogens and tar in tobacco cigs? You have to weigh this concern yourself. Hopefully within the next few months/years, we will see more studies on the inhalation of PG and Veggie Glyercin.
2. Maybe I am just out of the loop, I just looked at the ingredients of Eliquid in Carts and I see no Ammonia? where did you see this?
3. If it was lethal, would there be anyone here to help answer your questions? There are a few members that have reported a "burning" taste which we assume is the burning of the filler/polyester, however, nothing is for certain.

The polyester has to touch the atomizer. there is a small heating element/transfer foil type stuff on top of the atomizer that sits in the polyster and soaks it out essentially. You can trim necessary fibers if you see a long hairs sticking out. Other then that, I personally wouldn't worry about it.

just my $.02 cents. Good luck!

Jarvis made a great diagram on the Cartridge/Filler/Atomizer

[TropicalBob]

Please don't let your concerns prevent you from taking a step toward a healthier life. I'm one of those who says that much remains unknown about the consequences of e-smoking, but I don't for a minute doubt that this is hundreds of times safer than smoking cigarettes. There is no ammonia, BTW, in these. There is in cigarettes. The propylene glycol liquid is presumed safe to ingest into the body, so we await only long-term studies (which can't be done on anyone but US!). Finally, it is rare for the polyester core material to burn or melt. If it does, chances are you have a flawed unit that should be returned. None of the cores I've used have ever burned or melted, and I've been at this for six months.

[kramerica2]

Please don't let your concerns prevent you from taking a step toward a healthier life. I'm one of those who says that much remains unknown about the consequences of e-smoking, but I don't for a minute doubt that this is hundreds of times safer than smoking cigarettes. There is no ammonia, BTW, in these. There is in cigarettes. The propylene glycol liquid is presumed safe to ingest into the body, so we await only long-term studies (which can't be done on anyone but US!). Finally, it is rare for the polyester core material to burn or melt. If it does, chances are you have a flawed unit that should be returned. None of the cores I've used have ever burned or melted, and I've been at this for six months.

Do you remember the "healthier" cigs from the 50's that contained asbestos? I'm just concerned that since we don't know enough about those ingredients, they would turn up more harmful than regular cigs. I mean, heavy smokers that their body is used to being poisoned have had sore throats and dizziness from those e-cigs. It just makes you wonder.

Oh, by the way, although I can get them around here, the equivalent to the FDA in my country didn't approve the nic. containing filters, only the nic. free ones. The importer say that its because the nic. ones require a long approval process similar to a drug, but you never know....

[jamie]

There are a few members that have reported a "burning" taste which we assume is the burning of the filler/polyester, however, nothing is for certain.

Agree with the nothing being for certain, even on my 2 cents here.

I would say most active members have reported the burning taste and odor. Some have reported it to be burning cart fibers. Some have reported it to be old liquid held in the atomizer. Some have reported it to be the result of a low battery or an overheated atomizer. All of those situations have happened to me. I'm still pretty pleased with esmoking.

[TropicalBob]

I absolutely remember the asbestos scare. I was a Kent cigarette smoker and for the first five years of the "miracle Micronite" filter, asbestos was the filter material. Then the plant workers making the filters started getting lung diseases -- and dying. No more asbestos.

Yes, there are some unknowns with e-smoking. I accept them to have what I consider a safer smoking experience. But I think I'm even more concerned that the liquids' production and sale is completely unregulated. This is China we're talking about. This is a country that has managed to poison many of its exports to America. Doesn't that stand your hair on end, when you suck in a vapor from liquid of unknown safety and quality?

What country are you, BTW? Could this be Italy, where Ruyan sought approval that would influence the whole EU? If so, we see a nicotine-free future for our devices!!!

[jasondavis48108]

I share your concerns and so after about two weeks I stopped using my e-cig. I now use only snus and stonewall(the health food of the tobacco world), with the occasional puffing of the ruyan vegas e-cigar since you don't have to inhale. I do have to say that if you are concerned about the possible health effects of inhaling PG then you should really consider if you want to be inhaling anything but good ol clean air. Lungs are fragile things, and my guess is that there isn't much out there that could be worse for them than years of heavy smoking. I don't really trust the PG to be healthy either so I gave that up too, but if I decided to go back to smoking I'd definitly smoke the e-cig rather than a real cig. I was a 15 year, two pack a day smoker, and I felt so much better when I switched to the e-cig after just a few days. I can only guess that it's because it's better for you than real smoking. I also found it very easy to switch from the e-cig to snus which I don't think I couldhave done as easily if I was still smoking real cigs (snus is way more conveniet than e-smoking which can be a pain in the as*) I'm currently in the process of trying to get my dad to switch to an e-cig, and I certainly wouldn't do that if I didn't think it was better for him than the two to three packs of cigs he currently smokes. Just my thoughts, I don't know if we'll ever get a chance to find out the long term effects if the fda gets control of it. Darn Phillip Morris and thier butt kissin ways

[Spider]

It's right that none of us yet know the full dangers (if any) of what we're doing, but everyone that I can recall who has cut out tobacco smoking completely (including me) feels so much better for it.

If you managed so long on a nicotine inhaler, then it may be worth giving that another shot. I e-smoke because the inhaler didn't work for me and I see this as the next best thing.

[Mr.Darcy]

should you take the e-smoking route?
short answer-yes.

[TropicalBob]

Read the thread called Vapor-Less. You can turn an e-smoking device into a powerful nicotine inhaler, without vapor. If you had some success on the inhaler, you probably still have "dead" units lying around. Put E-Liquid in some. Try it. Or make your own as outlined in this thread: Vapor-Less